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From: Adrian Cox <adrian@humboldt.co.uk>
To: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: static scheduling - SCHED_IDLE?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:37:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AAD2592.4060109@humboldt.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103081747010.1314-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> <3AA93124.EC22CC8A@mvista.com> <3AA93ABE.7000707@humboldt.co.uk> <20010312190527.A23065@pcep-jamie.cern.ch>

Jamie Lokier wrote:

> Adrian Cox wrote:

>> Jamie Lokier's suggestion of raising priority when in the kernel doesn't 
>> help. You need to raise the priority of the task which is currently in 
>> userspace and will call up() next time it enters the kernel. You don't 
>> know which task that is.

> Dear oh dear.  I was under the impression that kernel semaphores are
> supposed to be used as mutexes only -- there are other mechanisms for
> signalling between processes.

I think most of the kernel semaphores are used as mutexes, with 
occasional producer/consumer semaphores. I think the core kernel code is 
fine, the risk mostly comes from miscellaneous character devices. I've 
written code that does this for a specialised device driver. I wanted 
only one process to have the device open at once, and for others to 
block on open. Using semaphores meant that multiple shells could do "cat 
 > /dev/mywidget" and be serialised.

Locking up users of this strange piece of hardware doesn't bring down 
the system, so your suggestion could work. We need a big fat warning in 
semaphore.h, and a careful examination of the current code.

- Adrian


  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-12 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-07 17:40 static scheduling - SCHED_IDLE? Oswald Buddenhagen
2001-03-07 18:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-07 19:20   ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2001-03-07 21:34     ` ludovic
2001-03-08 11:17       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2001-03-08 11:41         ` Andrew Morton
2001-03-08 13:29     ` Boris Dragovic
2001-03-08 13:44       ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-08 20:19         ` Boris Dragovic
2001-03-08 20:47           ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-09 19:38             ` george anzinger
2001-03-09 20:19               ` Adrian Cox
2001-03-12 18:05                 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-12 19:37                   ` Adrian Cox [this message]
2001-03-13  9:40                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-10  2:58               ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-09 19:42             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-10  3:02               ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-09 20:09                 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-10  4:56                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-14 13:19                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-03-15  3:13                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-14 14:26                   ` Philipp Rumpf
2001-03-09 11:26       ` Pavel Machek

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