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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
Cc: "Gérard Roudier" <groudier@club-internet.fr>,
	"Michael Reinelt" <reinelt@eunet.at>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Multi-function PCI devices
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:26:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ACF4DBC.1CB53442@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10104071043360.1085-100000@linux.local> <3ACF1525.88BCA48B@didntduck.org>

Brian Gerst wrote:
> Gérard Roudier wrote:
> > Given your description, this board is certainly not a multi-fonction PCI
> > device. Multi-function PCI devices provide separate resources for each
> > function in a way that allows each function to be driven by separate
> > software drivers. A single function PCI device that provides several
> > functionnalities commonly handled by separate sub-systems, is nothing but
> > a bag of shit we should not want to support in any O/S in my opinion.
> > Let me claim that ingenieers that want O/Ses to support such hardware are
> > either morons or bastards.
> 
> Unfortunately, Windoze supports this configuration, and that's enough
> for most hardware designers.  This is also an issue with the joystick
> ports on many PCI sound cards.  We're not in a position to get up on the
> soap box and decree this hardware "a bag of shit" though, yet.
> 
> PS.  I have run into this issue before with joystick ports on many PCI
> sound cards.  The only one that I found that did it right (seperate PCI
> function for the game port) was the SBLive.

We -can- support multifunction cards such and these, and no we don't
need to hack the infrastructure to do it.  You might need to hack the
subsystem drivers a bit to make them more flexible, but that's it.

WRT the specific example of joystick ports, it is already possible for a
sound driver to register a joystick port.  No problem there either.

	Jeff



-- 
Jeff Garzik       | Sam: "Mind if I drive?"
Building 1024     | Max: "Not if you don't mind me clawing at the dash
MandrakeSoft      |       and shrieking like a cheerleader."

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-07 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-07  8:06 Multi-function PCI devices Michael Reinelt
2001-04-07  8:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 10:14   ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 18:42     ` PATCH for Broken PCI Multi-IO in 2.4.3 (serial+parport) Gunther Mayer
2001-04-07 18:53       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 19:06         ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 20:24         ` Gunther Mayer
2001-04-07 22:26           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-08 20:45         ` Martin Mares
2001-04-19 16:33           ` [patch, take 1] parport_serial (was Re: PATCH for Broken PCI Multi-IO in 2.4.3 (serial+parport)) Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 19:03       ` PATCH for Broken PCI Multi-IO in 2.4.3 (serial+parport) Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 16:22         ` Gérard Roudier
2001-04-07 20:47           ` Gunther Mayer
2001-04-07 19:23         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 19:31           ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 20:21           ` Gunther Mayer
2001-04-07 21:45             ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 22:29             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 20:31           ` Gunther Mayer
2001-04-07 21:52             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 11:33   ` Multi-function PCI devices Michael Reinelt
2001-04-07 12:16     ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 14:06       ` Michael Reinelt
2001-04-07 13:18         ` Gérard Roudier
2001-04-07 18:36           ` Michael Reinelt
2001-04-07 18:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-08 11:38               ` Michael Reinelt
2001-04-13 22:51                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-14  0:34                   ` Michael Reinelt
2001-04-07 17:23       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 19:08         ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 19:31           ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-08 10:25           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-04-09 13:15   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-04-07  9:04 ` Gérard Roudier
2001-04-07 13:24   ` Brian Gerst
2001-04-07 14:03     ` Michael Reinelt
2001-04-07 13:01       ` Gérard Roudier
2001-04-07 19:14         ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 17:26     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2001-04-07 19:00   ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 19:40     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-07 19:52       ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-08 12:05         ` Michael Reinelt
2001-04-08 12:41           ` Tim Waugh
2001-04-07 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found] ` <200104072134.OAA11307@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-04-07 21:58   ` Jeff Garzik

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