From: Jun Sun <jsun@mvista.com>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:38:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B3768F0.19D7A773@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 001f01c0fd43$3865b680$0deca8c0@Ulysses
"Kevin D. Kissell" wrote:
>
> > > > > Since the kernel cache attribute is never initialized before
> > > > > ld_mmu_{whatever} is invoked, and since that Config field
> > > > > does not have a well-defined reset state on many MIPS
> > > > > CPUs, it would appear that we are in effect trusting the
> > > > > bootloader to have done something reasonable like
> > > > > set kseg0 to be non-cachable or write-through, either
> > > > > of which would be safe for the current code.
> > > >
> > > > I think you just proposed a fix: check current config register
> > > > when we turn off cache. Thanks. :-)
> > >
> > > That's a heuristic at best. If the config register comes up random,
> > > it can appear to be sane even though the cache is in fact uninitialized.
> > >
> >
> > For any practical reasons, we can assume there is a loader for Linux,
> > and we can assume loader does not run with a random config register.
>
> That's a position that would sound reasonable to someone working
> on Linux for legacy DEC/SGI systems, but not one that I would
> expect to satisfy someone working on embedded Linux. It would
> need to be governed by a config option, but I would think
> that ultimately we need to have a Linux that can be ROMed
> and branched to directly from the reset vector. Why force
> everyone doing an embedded MIPS/Linux widget to re-invent
> the wheel?
>
The currenct common practice in embedded world is:
1. during development stage, using a loader to download kernel to target.
2. during productization stage, use a separate rom loader to cold-start the
board and load the kernel from flash to RAM, assuming the kernel is on flash.
There are a couple of other vairants, but generally you do have a first stage
loader that will set up the environment right for Linux kernel.
Cold-starting a board and loading a kernel is highly board and system
specific. Does not seem to make sense to get included in the kernel
structure.
Jun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-25 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-23 16:05 CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-23 17:17 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-23 17:17 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-23 17:49 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-23 20:15 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-23 20:15 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-25 4:42 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-25 6:51 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-25 6:51 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-25 16:38 ` Jun Sun [this message]
2001-06-25 17:35 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Justin Carlson
2001-06-26 8:50 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-26 8:50 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-26 13:11 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-06-25 13:22 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Maciej W. Rozycki
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-23 23:26 CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Quinn Jensen
2001-01-23 23:53 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Pete Popov
2001-01-24 20:10 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-01-25 0:31 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Ralf Baechle
2001-01-25 1:09 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Pete Popov
2001-01-25 1:37 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-01-26 10:02 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-01-26 10:02 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
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