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From: SPATZ1@t-online.de (Frank Schneider)
To: dl8bcu@dl8bcu.de
Cc: Antonio Miguel Trindade <trindade@dei.uc.pt>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: aic7xxx errors
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:05:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B962319.F9B710B4@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200109050621.f856LAK00824@ambassador.mathewson.int> <3B95DB22.866EDCA3@mediascape.de> <3B95EA8F.93B27304@t-online.de> <200109051027.f85ARmM10012@polaris.dei.uc.pt> <3B960208.7121318@t-online.de> <20010905112127.A21405@Marvin.DL8BCU.ampr.org>

Thorsten Kranzkowski schrieb:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:44:24PM +0200, Frank Schneider wrote:
> > Antonio Miguel Trindade schrieb:
> > > Em Quarta 05 Setembro 2001 10:04, Frank Schneider escreveu:
> > > > Olaf Zaplinski schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > I had this effect too here (RH7.1, Kernel 2.4.3), but i put it on a
> > > > wrong termination of the LVD Bus...be careful if you have LVD-Drives
> > > > with a "Termination"-Jumper...(e.g. IBM DGHS18V)...this Termination is
> > > > only usable if you use the drive as Single Ended SCSI-UW, *not* if you
> > > > use the drive i a true LVD-environment !
> > > >
> > >
> > >    According to IBM specs, _no LVD drive has terminators built-in_... I have
> 
> There are definitely some that have this SE-Termination jumper.

Yes...i can send you one if you send me a spare-drive instead...:-))
 
> >
> > But as said, my DGHS-Disk has a build-in terminator for use with
> > UW-buses...the bad thing is, that if you "terminate" the LVD-bus with
> > this, it seems to work...for some time...i had "/" on it and a part of
> > my /home-RAID5, and it run 2 weeks....
> 
> Usually when a single device in a LVD chain is operated in SE mode all LVD
> devices also switch to SE mode automatically. The use of a SE terminator
> such as the one on your harddisk qualifies for SE operation.

Thats exactly what i expected, but that did not happen...i tried this
one time by setting the "SE"-Jumper on *all* devices *and* connecting
them to the UW-cable (i use a Asus P2B-DS-Mobo with 3 connectors,
Fast-SCSI, UW-SCSI, LVD-SCSI)..their it worked in the described way, but
on the LVD-cable not even the SCSI-Bios at bootup mentioned the
problem...all devices were "LVD-SCSI" rated, and not "SE/FastSCSI" at
bootup...and /proc/scsi/aic7xxx/0 also said something about "80MByte/sec
synchronous speed..."

It seems that in this particular case you don`t get any hint where the
problem lies...neither from the bios nor from the driver...i noticed it
when i changed the LVD-cable and took a closer look on the disks...and
then in the specs on www.storage.ibm.com....

> But in SE mode you are tied to the much stricter specifications like length
> of cable etc. compared to LVD mode.

Thats clear...max. cablelength is 1,50m (if more than 4 devices are
connected), all together, incl. Fast-SCSI-cable or external cables, if
used...

> So maybe you just exceeded specifications too much.

I did this also one time (6 Devices-2m cablelength) and it showed indeed
the same problems...randomly appearing crashes on the scsi-bus,
sometimes revoverable, sometimes not, sometimes under heavy disk-load,
sometimes without...

Solong..
Frank.

--
Frank Schneider, <SPATZ1@T-ONLINE.DE>.                           
Microsoft isn't the answer.
Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO.
... -.-

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-05 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-05  6:21 aic7xxx errors Joseph Mathewson
2001-09-05  7:58 ` Olaf Zaplinski
2001-09-05  9:04   ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-05 10:27     ` Antonio Miguel Trindade
2001-09-05 10:44       ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-05 11:21         ` Thorsten Kranzkowski
2001-09-05 13:05           ` Frank Schneider [this message]
2001-09-07 20:32   ` AIC + RAID1 error? (was: Re: aic7xxx errors) Olaf Zaplinski
2001-09-07 22:32     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-07 22:51       ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-07 23:37         ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-10 13:50           ` Olaf Zaplinski
2001-09-10 19:11             ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-10 22:29               ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-10 22:42                 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-10 22:55                   ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-10 23:06                     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-10 23:37                       ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-10 23:46                         ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-11  0:00                           ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-11 12:10                       ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-11 16:51                         ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-10 23:05                   ` Andreas Steinmetz
2001-09-10 22:46                 ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-11 15:00             ` Olaf Zaplinski
2001-09-08 20:25     ` Frank Schneider
2001-09-08 22:07       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-09-05 20:23 ` aic7xxx errors Justin T. Gibbs

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