From: Mark Salisbury <mbs@mc.com>
To: Brad Boyer <flar@pants.nu>
Cc: Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Linux/PPC Development <linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org>
Subject: Re: ppc LE questions (seeking help hand info pointers)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:32:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BAA363B.5010400@mc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20010920171002.37DCA2B54A@marcus.pants.nu
Brad Boyer wrote:
>>>>>question 4. assuming I was willing to deliver a clean, complete LE
>>>>>enabling patch (including devices that are relevant to me), as a compile
>>>>>time config option and maintain that patch, what would be the primary
>>>>>obstacle to inclusion in the main line.
>>>>>
>>>>The objection to being an arch that attempts to support both LE and BE.
>>>>
>>>Note that we already have a precedent: mips and mipsel, both in arch/mips/.
>>>
>>And SH too, iirc. I know it can be done. But do we want to do it is the
>>question.
>>
>
> At least in the case of SH, there's a good reason. There's an external pin
> that controls the native endianness of the processor, and most setups just
> have it forcibly pulled high or low. I suspect the MIPS is the same reason,
> since it's used in similar situations. We don't have that excuse with ppc.
> Someone would have to come up with an excuse along the lines of "existing
> hardware won't work unless we do this" like it would have been for SH.
> (I had to work with the SH4e as used by Sega in the Dreamcast...)
well, this is in the context of a multi-CPU type (x86/ppc, sparc/ppc,
ppc/ppc, mips/ppc) shared memory multicomputer.
when dealing w/ direct mapped, shared memory, uniformity of endian-ness
makes many multicomputer problems easier to solve.(not to mention easier
for the customer to program...)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-09-20 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-20 15:42 ppc LE questions (seeking help hand info pointers) Mark Salisbury
2001-09-20 15:58 ` Tom Rini
2001-09-20 16:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-20 16:12 ` Tom Rini
2001-09-20 17:10 ` Brad Boyer
2001-09-20 18:32 ` Mark Salisbury [this message]
2001-09-20 19:29 ` Holger Bettag
2001-09-20 19:35 ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-20 20:19 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-09-21 1:46 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2001-09-21 3:54 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 7:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-21 7:47 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 7:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-21 8:19 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 17:01 ` Ralph Blach
2001-09-21 17:35 ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-21 18:58 ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-21 20:22 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-09-21 20:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-09-21 7:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-21 9:26 ` keyb Giuliano Pochini
2001-09-21 10:38 ` ppc LE questions (seeking help hand info pointers) Ralph Blach
2001-09-20 20:01 ` Tony Mantler
2001-09-20 18:28 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-09-20 19:12 ` Tom Rini
2001-09-20 22:22 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 5:45 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-09-28 6:37 ` Paul Mackerras
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-21 5:28 Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-21 6:10 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 10:59 ` Ralph Blach
2001-09-21 18:48 Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-22 0:22 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2001-09-22 20:06 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-24 17:10 ` Mark Salisbury
2001-09-22 14:23 ` Holger Bettag
2001-09-22 20:26 ` Timothy A. Seufert
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