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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] disk throughput
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 00:48:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BE7A3DD.D98400FB@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1611lE-00086H-00@the-village.bc.nu> <Pine.GSO.4.21.0111060334590.27713-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu>

Alexander Viro wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > Surely the answer if you want short term write speed and long term balancing
> > is to use ext3 not ext2 and simply ensure that the relevant stuff goes to
> > the journal (which will be nicely ordered) first. That will give you some
> > buffering at least.
> 
> Alan, the problem is present in ext3 as well as in all other FFS derivatives
> (well, FreeBSD had tried to deal that stuff this Spring).
> 

Yep.  Once we're seek-bound on metadata and data, the occasional
seek-and-squirt into the journal won't make much difference, and
the other write patterns will be the same.

Interestingly, current ext3 can do a 600 meg write in fifty
seconds, whereas ext2 takes seventy.  This will be related to the
fact that ext3 just pumps all the buffers into submit_bh(), 
whereas ext2 fiddles around with all the write_locked_buffers()
stuff.  I think.  Or the intermingling of indirects with data
is tripping ext2 up.  The additional seeking is audible.

-

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-06  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-05  2:13 disk throughput Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  3:20 ` Mohammad A. Haque
2001-11-05  3:31   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  3:32 ` [Ext2-devel] " Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  3:45   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  4:39     ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  7:06     ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  7:14       ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  7:26         ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  7:14       ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  7:18         ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  7:18       ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  9:14         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  9:20           ` Jens Axboe
2001-11-05  5:54   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-11-05  8:04     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 12:28       ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-05 14:23       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05 22:22         ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 22:41           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-05 22:53             ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-08 15:28               ` Constantin Loizides
2001-11-05 23:14             ` Dan Hollis
2001-11-06 10:52           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-11-06 16:17             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2001-11-08 15:24               ` Constantin Loizides
2001-11-08 16:46                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2001-11-09  6:08                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-09  8:49                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2001-11-06 21:45           ` Stephen Tweedie
2001-11-05 20:16       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-05 20:28         ` m
2001-11-05 21:39           ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 22:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-05 23:36               ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-05 23:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  0:03                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  1:33                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  2:10                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  3:02                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  8:39                           ` Alan Cox
2001-11-06  8:37                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  8:48                               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-11-06  3:49                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  4:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  4:21                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  5:01                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  5:31                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-06  5:48                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-06  7:34                                     ` Mike Castle
2001-11-06  7:10                                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-09 22:35                       ` Riley Williams
2001-11-06  1:28                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-06  9:16                     ` Wojtek Pilorz
2001-11-06  9:58                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-08 12:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-11-06 21:48           ` Stephen Tweedie
2001-11-06 23:17             ` ext2/ialloc.c cleanup Alexander Viro
2001-11-07 19:34               ` [Ext2-devel] " Andreas Dilger
2001-11-07 20:02                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-08  2:06                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-08 20:45                     ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-08 22:16                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-08 22:43                         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-08 23:08                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-09  6:15                             ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-09  6:56                               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-11-09  7:09                                 ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-09  7:12                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-11-09  7:18                                   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05  9:45     ` [Ext2-devel] disk throughput Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-05  9:58       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-11-05  8:47 ` Jan Kara
2001-11-05  8:50   ` [Ext2-devel] " Mike Fedyk
2001-11-05  9:01     ` Jan Kara
2001-11-05 12:23 ` Matthias Andree
2001-11-05 22:39   ` Andrew Morton
2001-11-05 23:41     ` Matthias Andree
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-12  6:04 [Ext2-devel] " Yan, Noah

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