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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fdutils.
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:02:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BF18A58.9080804@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1011113214448.11222E-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl>

Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:

> 
>>> Hmm, Sun used to have a software-controlled standard floppy drives years
>>>ago... 
>>>
>>I'm not talking about Suns.
> 
>  I'm just pointing out there used to be no problem with making a
> software-controlled eject for a legacy floppy device even long ago if one
> wanted to. 
> 


Macs have had them since, what, 1984?  It's never been a question of it
being a problem, but it hasn't caught on on the PC.


> 
>>> Based on local obervations hardly anyone uses floppies anymore...  They
>>>are mostly used for system rescue purposes, where the kind of a device
>>>doesn't really matter.
>>>
>>... except that you no longer can fit a reasonable system rescue/install
>>setup on a floppy, so it *defintitely* matters.  Also, the floppy device
>>is like a rash all over the hardware; it maintains a highly undesirable
>>legacy.
>>
> 
>  You only confirm what I wrote -- hardly anyone uses floppies, so there is
> no need to keep mechanical compatibility in devices -- a complete dump of
> 1.44" FD support would be almost harmless.  Hence whether a Zip or a
> LS-120 -- it doesn't really matter.  You need new media anyway. 
> 


Unfortunately other people don't seem to see it that way, and so it
doesn't happen.  People ship USB floppies with new laptops, so there is
clearly a demand for them.  I believe that if LS-120 had been where the
Zip drive was for a brief while, it would have stuck, just because of the
compatibility issue.

	-hpa

 



  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-13 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-13  9:11 fdutils Rajiv Malik
2001-11-13 16:44 ` fdutils Keith Owens
2001-11-15 22:51   ` fdutils Kai Henningsen
2001-11-13 18:28 ` fdutils H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-13 19:42   ` fdutils Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-11-13 19:57     ` fdutils H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-13 20:12       ` fdutils Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-11-13 20:42         ` fdutils H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-13 20:52           ` fdutils Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-11-13 21:02             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-11-13 21:45             ` fdutils Richard B. Johnson
2001-11-14  0:22               ` fdutils Pascal Schmidt
2001-11-14  0:23                 ` fdutils H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-14  0:37                   ` fdutils Pascal Schmidt
2001-11-14  0:50                     ` fdutils Riley Williams
2001-11-14  1:30                       ` fdutils CaT
2001-11-14  1:35                         ` fdutils H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-15  0:40                         ` fdutils Riley Williams
2001-11-15  0:51                           ` fdutils CaT
2001-11-15  1:09                             ` fdutils Riley Williams
2001-11-15  6:23                               ` fdutils CaT
2001-11-15  1:15                           ` fdutils H. Peter Anvin
2001-11-14  2:20                     ` fdutils Mr. James W. Laferriere
2001-11-14  2:18                   ` fdutils. (Was Re: [Q] pivot_root and initrd) Mr. James W. Laferriere
2001-11-14 12:18               ` fdutils Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-11-13 22:03             ` fdutils Gerhard Mack
2001-11-14 12:20               ` fdutils Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-11-14 15:25                 ` fdutils Gerhard Mack
2001-11-14 13:08             ` fdutils Horst von Brand
2001-11-14 14:01               ` fdutils Maciej W. Rozycki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-16 10:26 fdutils Rajiv Malik
2001-11-13  7:35 fdutils Rajiv Malik

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