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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: wingel@t1.ctrl-c.liu.se
Cc: robert@schwebel.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jason@mugwump.taiga.com, anders@alarsen.net, rkaiser@sysgo.de,
	tytso@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] AMD Elan patch
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 16:48:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C3258DF.5000908@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0112311900380.3056-100000@callisto.local> <3C322EEE.5040402@zytor.com> <20020102000609.6B6C136F9F@hog.ctrl-c.liu.se>

Christer Weinigel wrote:

> 
>     Alternate Gate A20 Control Register (Port 00EEh) A special 8-bit
>     read/write control register provides a fast and reliable way to
>     control the CPU A20 signal. A dummy read of this register returns
>     a value of FFh and forces the CPU A20 to propagate to the core
>     logic, while a dummy write to this register will cause the CPU A20
>     signal to be forced Low as long as no other A20 gate control
>     sources are forcing the CPU A20 signal to propagate.
> 
> I think it's safe to assume that it takes effect immediately.
> 


What leads you to that conclusion?  There is nothing in the above 
paragraph that would lead you to believe that.

> 
>>I'm also very uncomfortable with putting this where you do; I think it 
>>should be put before a20_kbc instead.  If the BIOS is implemented 
>>correctly, it should be used.
>>
> 
> I disagree, the Elan SC410 is an embedded CPU, it's used in systems
> that might not even have a BIOS (such as the Ericsson eBox that I've
> been working with).  Since there has to be a config option for this
> CPU (the clock frequency selection) and a SC410-enabled kernel won't
> work properly on a normal PC anyway, why not modify the boot sequence
> so that it _always_ works on this CPU.
> 


If used sans BIOS you need *massive* modifications to the setup anyway, 
and you're talking a completely custom kernel.  The reason to use the 
BIOS first is to give the platform vendor a hook to deal with 
platform-specific issues, and God knows there are plenty of those when 
it comes to A20.  (The fact that the BIOSes on the boards we have 
discussed haven't provided such a hook is a bug in itself.)

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-02  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-21 21:26 AMD SC410 boot problems with recent kernels Robert Schwebel
2001-12-21 22:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-22 16:13   ` Robert Schwebel
2001-12-23  1:44     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23  9:45       ` Robert Schwebel
2001-12-23 10:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-23 13:16         ` Christer Weinigel
2001-12-23 20:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-12-30 22:02             ` Robert Schwebel
2001-12-30 23:15               ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-01 12:30 ` [PATCH][RFC] AMD Elan patch Robert Schwebel
2002-01-01 21:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-01 23:27     ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-01 23:38       ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02  0:05         ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02  0:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02 13:49           ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 14:03             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-02 16:10               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 22:40                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02 23:10                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 23:02                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02 23:50                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03  9:04                       ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 23:56                     ` Robert Kaiser
2002-01-03  0:10                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-03  8:52                   ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 16:06             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02 16:56               ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 17:26                 ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 23:06                   ` Peter Wächtler
2002-01-02 23:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-02  1:07         ` [RFC] Embedded X86 systems Was: " Christer Weinigel
2002-01-02  8:45           ` Alan Cox
2002-01-02  9:05             ` Christer Weinigel
2002-01-02  9:18               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-05 12:23             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-02  0:06     ` Christer Weinigel
2002-01-02  0:48       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2002-01-02  1:10         ` Christer Weinigel
2002-01-02 13:58           ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 20:47             ` Christer Weinigel
2002-01-02 13:55       ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-02 15:54   ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-11  9:38   ` [PATCH] " Robert Schwebel
2002-01-21  7:28     ` New version of " Robert Schwebel
2002-01-21 20:44       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-01-24  8:09       ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-24  8:39         ` Robert Schwebel
2002-01-23 10:28     ` [PATCH] " Robert Schwebel
2002-01-23 21:30       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-01-22 14:47   ` [PATCH][RFC] " Robert Schwebel
2002-01-22 18:01     ` Dave Jones
2002-01-22 22:55   ` New version of AMD Elan patch available Robert Schwebel
2002-02-01 22:01     ` Robert Schwebel

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