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From: Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>
To: "Michael Lazarou (ETL)" <Michael.Lazarou@etl.ericsson.se>
Cc: "'esr@thyrsus.com'" <esr@thyrsus.com>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:30:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C42CF6E.30106@debian.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.r42lgsv.1b5e3p9@ifi.uio.no>


Michael Lazarou (ETL) wrote:

>>
>>The kernel's device drivers have, of course, to include probe
>>routines, and those hard-compiled in typically log the presence of
>>their hardware to /var/log/mesg when it loads.  By scanning that
>>file, we in effect get to use those probes.
>>
> 
> Doesn't this mean that you would need a fully functional kernel
> before you get to run the autoconfigurator?


Not a problem. Autoconfiguration is made to help configuring
the kernel, before to compile it. So you need a linux working
machine (actually you can cross-compile).

Our task is to allow user to compile a kernel, with the
needed drivers, without the non used drivers.

If you want a good running kernel image:
   check the kernels in your distribution.
If you want to compile a general running kernel:
   use the kernel sources in your distribution (
   with your distribution's .config), or compile
   the std kernel with your distribution's .config

If you want a working kernel to boot Linux in your

   old/new/non-x86 machine: check the installation
   note of your distribution. Use special kernel (from
   your distribution,...)

 

You see: different task needs different tools.
Maybe we can merge some problems, but how? why?

[I still have a working version of autoconfigure in
shell, if some "boot-floppies" people need some
of our detection.]

But for old ISA cards (and some newer laptop) there is
only one method to find the right *kernel*:
boot and try (and changing kernels, parameters,...)
[check: installation document and internet resources].

We don't want a boot and retry for our configuration,
so let use the (incomplete) infos from kernel.

	giacomo


       reply	other threads:[~2002-01-14 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.r42lgsv.1b5e3p9@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 12:30 ` Giacomo Catenazzi [this message]
2002-01-14 18:36 ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Stephen Shirley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-01-14 14:25 Michael Lazarou (ETL)
2002-01-14 14:47 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 11:17 Michael Lazarou (ETL)
2002-01-14 16:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:59   ` Eli Carter
2002-01-14 17:11     ` Wichert Akkerman
2002-01-14 18:33   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 23:02     ` Tom Gilbert
2002-01-14 18:58   ` Andrew Pimlott
     [not found] <fa.dardpev.1m1emjp@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 10:14 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:59       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14  8:03 Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-01-14  9:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 14:00   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-01-14  1:58 Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14  2:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-14  8:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-01-14  8:48   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14  9:17     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-14 17:34     ` Eric W. Biederman

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