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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: another IDE cleanup: kill duplicated code
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:03:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C69750E.8BA2C6AB@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020211221102.GA131@elf.ucw.cz> <3C68F3F3.8030709@evision-ventures.com>

Martin Dalecki wrote:
> 
> If you are already at it, I would like to ask to you consider seriously
> the removal of the
> following entries in the ide drivers /proc control files:
> 
>     ide_add_setting(drive,    "breada_readahead",    ...         1,
> 2,    &read_ahead[major],        NULL);
>     ide_add_setting(drive,    "file_readahead",   ...
> &max_readahead[major][minor],    NULL);
>
> Those calls can be found in ide-cd.c, ide-disk,c and ide-floppy.c

I suspect that if we remove these, we'll one day end up putting them back.
It is appropriate that we be able to control readahead characteristics
on a per-device and per-technology basis.

> The second of them is trying to control a file-system level constant
> inside the actual block device driver.
> This is a blatant violation of the layering principle in software
> design, and should go as soon as
> possible.

Well, the whole design of filesystems and the VM are a blatant
layering violation: all the stuff we do at all levels to try to
perform block-contiguous reads and writes, and to keep related
data at related LBAs is making implicit assumptions about the
underlying physical storage technology.  We've been doing that
for 30 years - if a constant access time storage technology
takes over from rotating and seeking disks, we have a lot of stuff
to toss out.

That being said, it is a horrid user interface wart that IDE readhead
is controlled from /proc/ide/hda/settings:file_readhead, and that IDE
ignores /proc/sys/vm/max-readahead, whereas devices which forget to
set up their max_readhead entries are controlled by /proc/sys/vm/max-readhead.

My vote would be to remove both of them.  Move the readhead controls
into the filemap level, but implement per-device controls.  Say,
/proc/sys/vm/readhead/hda, /proc/sys/vm/readhead/sdc, etc.

-

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-12 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-11 22:11 another IDE cleanup: kill duplicated code Pavel Machek
2002-02-12 10:52 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 12:28   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 12:45     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 12:57       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 13:17         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 13:43           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 13:58             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 14:42               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 15:23                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 15:28                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 15:35                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 16:56                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13  5:50                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13  7:28                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 10:53                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 10:35                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 10:29                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 10:56                           ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-13 11:11                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 11:25                               ` Matthias Andree
2002-02-12 18:28                   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 12:35                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 16:24                       ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-13 16:31                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 16:57             ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13  5:46               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13  6:42                 ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13  7:30                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13  7:47                     ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13  7:44                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13  7:58                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 20:38                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-13 11:01                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 11:03                         ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-13 11:27                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13  7:05                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-12 12:50     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 19:19   ` Roger Larsson
2002-02-13 10:56     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-12 20:03   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-02-13 10:47     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-13 18:52       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-14 10:04         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-14 10:19           ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-13  5:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13  7:30   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13  7:27     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 10:39       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 10:46         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 11:26           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-13 11:26             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-13 11:03   ` Daniel Egger

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