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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: "Gérard Roudier" <groudier@free.fr>
Cc: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.5-pre1 IDE cleanup 9
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:35:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C76C7A1.4389A375@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020221221145.I1742-100000@gerard>

Gérard Roudier wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
> > Gérard Roudier wrote:
> > > Basically at the moment, if the driver allows upper 'seeming cleaner and
> > > smarter' PCI probing things to deal with the HBA attachment order, at
> > > least all my machines running Linux will not even reboot.
> > >
> > > Being smart is doing what user expects, here.
> >
> > Oh come on, how hard is the following?
> >
> > > static int __init foo_init(void)
> > > {
> > >     int rc = pci_module_init(&sym2_pci_driver);
> > >     if (rc) return rc;
> > >     do_deferred_work();
> > > }
> > > module_init(foo_init);
> >
> > You have tons of flexibility you are ignoring here...  For the
> > non-hotplug hosts (ie. present at boot), just use pci_driver::probe to
> > register hosts on a list, and little other work.  do_deferred_work()
> > handles the list in a manner that ensures proper boot and/or host
> > ordering.
> >
> > So for non-hotplug hosts you do a init_module time:
> >       register N hosts with PCI API
> >       register N hosts with SCSI API
> >
> > And hotplugged hosts would do the same, with N==1.
> >
> > What you describe -is- supported with the PCI API.
> 
> At the time I investigated the API it just mixed the probing and the
> registering by performing some auto-registration based on return value.
> May-be the API did evolve since that time or I missed something important.
> 
> For now I will be in vacation for 1 week. I will re-investigate this when
> I will be back.

Thanks!

One thing that is slowly becoming apparently to me during this thread is
the importance of separating ordering [of hosts, of disks] from the
registration of the resource itself.

Thinking about the problem a bit more (NVRAM boot disk ordering, etc.) I
believe that what I describe above might be considered a transition
step...  In Step Two, do_deferred_work() [above] would likely be moved
to userspace, running on initramfs.

	Jeff



-- 
Jeff Garzik      | "UNIX enhancements aren't."
Building 1024    |           -- says /usr/games/fortune
MandrakeSoft     |

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-22 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 217+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-13 22:38 linux-2.5.5-pre1 Linus Torvalds
2002-02-13 23:16 ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Matthias Andree
2002-02-14  2:30   ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Jeff Garzik
2002-02-14  1:17 ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Daniel Phillips
2002-02-14  1:35   ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 -= M.J. Prinsen =-
2002-02-14  9:22     ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Allan Sandfeld
2002-02-14  5:31   ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Linus Torvalds
2002-02-14  8:04 ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 bert hubert
2002-02-14 16:23   ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Linus Torvalds
2002-02-14 16:53     ` linux-2.5.5-pre1 Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-14 14:08 ` [PATCH} 2.5.5-pre1 VESA fb Martin Dalecki
2002-02-14 15:16   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-14 15:32     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-14 20:49 ` Compile error with linux-2.5.5-pre1 & advansys scsi Gerold J. Wucherpfennig
2002-02-19 11:37 ` [PATCH] 2.5.5-pre1 IDE cleanup Martin Dalecki
2002-02-19 11:46 ` [PATCH] 2.5.5-pre1 IDE cleanup 9 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 10:07   ` Gerd Knorr
2002-02-22 13:50     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 10:42   ` Gadi Oxman
2002-02-22 13:45     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 14:03       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 14:12         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 14:20           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 14:16         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 14:38           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 14:46             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 14:47             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 14:58           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 15:01           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 15:12             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-23  8:05           ` Keith Owens
2002-02-23 14:55             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 14:16         ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-22 14:40           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-21 20:31             ` Gérard Roudier
2002-02-22 19:56               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-21 21:14                 ` Gérard Roudier
2002-02-22 22:35                   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-02-22 21:34               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 21:45                 ` Greg KH
2002-02-22 21:56                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 21:59                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 23:06                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 14:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-21 20:39               ` Gérard Roudier
2002-02-22 19:47                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-21 21:01                   ` Gérard Roudier
2002-02-22 20:07                     ` Greg KH
2002-02-21 21:24                       ` Gérard Roudier
2002-02-22 20:41                         ` Greg KH
2002-02-22 21:30                           ` Erik Andersen
2002-02-22 21:42                             ` Greg KH
2002-02-22 21:54                               ` Erik Andersen
2002-02-22 21:22                         ` Erik Andersen
2002-02-21 23:17                           ` Gérard Roudier
2002-02-22 22:23                             ` Erik Andersen
2002-02-22 23:27                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-22 20:09                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 20:29                         ` Greg KH
2002-02-22 20:34                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 23:46                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 20:32                         ` arjan
2002-02-22 23:44                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-23 15:35                           ` [PATCH] 2.5.5 IDE cleanup 12 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 23:59                         ` [PATCH] 2.5.5-pre1 IDE cleanup 9 Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 19:46                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 20:06                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-22 20:19                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 21:47                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 23:02                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 23:46                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-23 14:53                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 21:40                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 21:36                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-20 10:49 ` [PATCH] 2.5.5-pre1 IDE cleanup 10 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-21  9:39   ` [PATCH] 2.5.5 IDE cleanup 11 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-21 10:53     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-21 11:06       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-21 17:27       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-21 17:52         ` Alan Cox
2002-02-21 17:57           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-21 18:14             ` Alan Cox
2002-02-21 18:44               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-22 15:51               ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-21 13:59     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-21 17:32       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-21 17:50         ` Alan Cox
2002-02-21 18:17           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-21 21:24       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-21 21:30         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22  9:25           ` Flash Back -- kernel 2.1.111 Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 10:08             ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-22 10:09               ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-22 17:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-22 18:58                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-23 17:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-24  4:42                     ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-24  5:38                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-24  6:01                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-24  7:30                           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-24 12:18                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 20:29                               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-24 20:32                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 21:15                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-24 21:11                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 21:31                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-24 21:19                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 21:25                                         ` nick
2002-02-24 21:32                                           ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-24 21:42                                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 21:47                                               ` nick
2002-02-24 21:41                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 21:47                                           ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-24 21:31                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-24 21:40                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 21:46                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-24 21:50                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 22:18                                     ` David S. Miller
2002-02-24 20:54                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 21:19                                   ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-24 21:37                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 22:03                                       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-02-24 22:08                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 22:23                                           ` Paul Mackerras
2002-02-24 22:37                                             ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-24 23:08                                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-24 22:01                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-02-24 22:10                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 22:25                                       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-02-24 22:27                                         ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-24 22:48                                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-25  8:49                                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 22:39                                         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 22:44                                           ` David S. Miller
2002-02-24 22:51                                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 22:59                                               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-02-24 23:02                                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 23:26                                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-02-27 15:59                                                     ` Remco Post
2002-02-24 23:12                                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-24 23:10                                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-24 23:01                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-24 20:52                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 23:04                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-24  9:27                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-24 12:28                           ` [PATCH] IDE clean 12 3rd attempt Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 16:14                             ` Greg KH
2002-03-08 15:46                           ` [PATCH] 2.5.6 IDE 18 Martin Dalecki
2002-03-08 16:42                             ` Richard Gooch
2002-03-09 12:56                               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-24 10:23                       ` Flash Back -- kernel 2.1.111 Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-24 12:14                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 12:40                 ` [PATCH] 2.5.6 IDE 19 Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 15:19                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 16:23                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 16:58                       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 17:03                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 17:10                           ` Charles Cazabon
2002-03-11 17:30                           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 18:23                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 19:41                               ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 18:00                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:03                             ` [PATCH] 2.5.6 IDE 19, return of taskfile Gunther Mayer
2002-03-11 19:14                               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:22                                 ` Gunther Mayer
2002-03-11 19:23                               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-12  9:52                                 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-03-11 19:47                               ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 19:38                                 ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 19:42                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:55                                     ` Alexander Viro
2002-03-11 20:02                                   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-13 12:55                                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-15 17:49                                       ` john slee
2002-03-16  2:26                                         ` Erik Andersen
2002-03-11 19:39                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-12  1:48                           ` [PATCH] 2.5.6 IDE 19 Pavel Machek
2002-03-11 21:50                         ` Barry K. Nathan
2002-03-12  1:44                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-11 17:42                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 18:08                         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 18:05                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-11 19:39                             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-11 22:02                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-11 22:01                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-03-12  8:58                               ` Joachim Breuer
2002-03-11 22:06                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-11 22:10                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-03-11 18:06                           ` Wayne Whitney
2002-03-11 18:27                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 18:51                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 19:02                               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:12                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 19:24                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:30                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 19:35                                       ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:51                                         ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-11 19:51                                           ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 21:19                                           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-11 22:44                                             ` Davide Libenzi
2002-03-13 19:19                                               ` David Ford
2002-03-12  0:00                                             ` Jos Hulzink
2002-03-12  5:17                                             ` Andre Hedrick
2002-03-11 19:27                                   ` Russell King
2002-03-11 17:53                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-03-11 19:04                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-11 21:02                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-11 22:44                           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-12  0:47                       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-12  0:28                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-03-13 14:14                 ` [PATCH] IDE 21 Martin Dalecki
2002-03-13 17:42                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-02-22 10:12             ` Flash Back -- kernel 2.1.111 Pedro M. Rodrigues
2002-02-22 19:03               ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 19:56                 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-22 19:38                   ` Andre Hedrick
2002-02-22 10:37             ` David S. Miller

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