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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Hanna Linder <hannal@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	viro@math.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] lockmeter results comparing 2.4.17, 2.5.3, and 2.5.5
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:45:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C7D374B.4621F9BA@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10460000.1014833979@w-hlinder.des>, <10460000.1014833979@w-hlinder.des> <67850000.1014834875@flay>

"Martin J. Bligh" wrote:
> 
> ...
> looks a little distressing - the hold times on inode_lock by prune_icache
> look bad in terms of latency (contention is still low, but people are still
> waiting on it for a very long time). Is this a transient thing, or do people
> think this is going to be a problem?

inode_lock hold times are a problem for other reasons.  Leaving this
unfixed makes the preepmtible kernel rather pointless....  An ideal
fix would be to release inodes based on VM pressure against their backing
page.  But I don't think anyone's started looking at inode_lock yet.

The big one is lru_list_lock, of course.  I'll be releasing code in
the next couple of days which should take that off the map.  Testing
would be appreciated.

I have a concern about the lockmeter results.  Lockmeter appears
to be measuring lock frequency and hold times and contention.  But
is it measuring the cost of the cacheline transfers?   For example,
I expect that with delayed allocation and radix-tree pagecache, one
of the major remaining bottlenecks will be ownership of the superblock
semaphore's cacheline.   Is this measurable?  (Actually, we may
then be at the point where copy_from_user costs dominate).

-

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-27 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-27 18:19 lockmeter results comparing 2.4.17, 2.5.3, and 2.5.5 Hanna Linder
2002-02-27 18:34 ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2002-02-27 19:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-27 19:45   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-02-27 19:57     ` Hanna Linder
2002-02-28  8:31       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2002-02-27 20:01     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-02-27 20:15       ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-27 21:31         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-27 21:48     ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-27 23:14       ` Hanna Linder
2002-02-27 23:32       ` Hanna Linder
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-27 21:30 Niels Christiansen

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