From: Dan Malek <dan@embeddededge.com>
To: Michael Sokolov <msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG>
Cc: linux-galileo@source.mvista.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 01:39:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C99801A.8070002@embeddededge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0203210213.AA15856@ivan.Harhan.ORG
Michael Sokolov wrote:
> ......pass this magic info via
> bi_recs (now it's done either with a board #ifdef maze or .config options). I
> don't think there should be .config options for things that are fixed hard in
> PCB traces or in silicon, and board #ifdefs are ugly. bi_recs are the answer.
I don't agree. I believe if you can't configure the software in the usual
way with configuration options, you can't do it cleanly with bi_recs, either.
There are pin multiplex configurations on 8xx that you just can't (or shouldn't
due to lots of complexity) define in a dynamic manner. The purpose of the
current Linux configuration is to create a binary that fits a particular board
and architecture. Not so long ago, we had great discussions over creating kernels
with lots of dynamic configuration that would boot on multiple boards and how
this wasn't suitable for embedded processors due to limited resources. We
painstakingly made changes to #defines and rewrote software so the compiler
would apply optimizations to create binaries as small as possible. I guess no
one remembers that anymore :-). The config options are exactly for things that
are fixed by board and processor design. The bi_recs are for only those things
that aren't fixed by board or processor design, like memory size, cpu speed,
MAC address. I almost have to give into Wolfgang's request for flash details,
but I would still rather have mtd configurations for that :-).
Just take a look at and understand how some of this software has evolved, and
the 8xx is a great example. Lots of boards use the same processor (and built in
peripherals) and are wired slightly different, but there is still a separate
configuration for all of them and it would be overly complex to not do this.
Yes, you _could_, but I don't see any value in doing so other than proving you
can do it. It creates code that just consumes more resources. Once you have
a configuration for the board, the variations are the things I keep mentioning..
...memory size, cpu speed, MAC address, console port baud rate. It's been working
nicely for years, and it is conceptually consistent with other types of Linux
configuration on other platforms.
-- Dan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-21 6:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-21 2:13 EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 6:39 ` Dan Malek [this message]
2002-03-31 8:32 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-01 18:39 ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02 5:32 ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-02 16:33 ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 17:29 ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02 14:42 ` Armin
2002-04-02 20:12 ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 21:02 ` Dan Malek
2002-04-03 0:21 ` Tom Rini
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-27 20:09 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:53 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 19:37 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:34 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:46 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:03 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 16:16 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 16:24 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:40 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:02 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:06 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 15:46 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:48 ` benh
2002-03-27 15:59 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 2:37 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 21:52 ` benh
2002-03-27 14:15 ` Matt Porter
2002-03-27 15:10 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 15:15 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:47 ` benh
2002-03-28 9:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-27 1:35 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 23:48 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-24 16:02 Michael Sokolov
[not found] <dan@embeddededge.com>
[not found] ` <3C98DA15.50302@embeddededge.com>
2002-03-21 1:11 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21 6:50 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21 11:05 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21 1:10 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 0:57 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21 6:58 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21 0:47 Michael Sokolov
[not found] <3C98B189.78A92DFE@mvista.com>
2002-03-20 18:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <3C98DB49.2C3A2F79@mvista.com>
2002-03-23 3:49 ` Val Henson
2002-03-20 17:11 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 18:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 17:04 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 17:25 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-21 20:36 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-21 19:17 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-21 21:36 ` Jim Potter
[not found] <20020320164025.31626@mailhost.mipsys.com>
2002-03-20 16:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020320155551.GD3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 16:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020320150119.GB3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 15:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 1:02 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 0:43 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-20 7:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 13:19 ` benh
2002-03-20 15:30 ` Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 16:19 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-20 16:58 ` benh
2002-03-23 4:01 ` Val Henson
2002-03-23 13:07 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-24 12:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 12:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:09 ` Val Henson
2002-03-24 16:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 18:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-26 2:16 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 16:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 17:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25 0:44 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-25 22:05 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 3:21 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 4:14 ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-26 10:14 ` benh
2002-03-26 12:05 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-03-26 12:18 ` benh
2002-03-26 23:24 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-26 21:40 ` benh
2002-03-27 15:13 ` Mark A. Greer
[not found] <20020320000500.GV3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 0:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020319235815.GU3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 0:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <20020319224420.GO3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 0:03 ` Gabriel Paubert
[not found] <20020319231628.GQ3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] <3C97A9C1.EBA150B6@mvista.com>
2002-03-19 23:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
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