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From: Andreas Hartmann <andihartmann@freenet.de>
To: "Christian Bornträger" <linux-kernel@borntraeger.net>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy@karlsbakk.net>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Kernel-Mailingliste <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [2.4.18] Security: Process-Killer if machine get's out of memory
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:37:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C9E1CE0.3000609@freenet.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0203241444560.18660-100000@imladris.surriel.com> <200203241757.SAA20700@piggy.rz.tu-ilmenau.de>

Christian Bornträger wrote:
> Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
>>
>>>Would it hard to do some memory allocation statistics, so if some
>>>process at one point (as rsync did) goes crazy eating all memory, that
>>>would be detected?
>>
>>No.  What I doubt however is whether it would be worth it,
>>since most machines never run OOM.
> 
> 
> Well, I think could be worth in terms of security, because a local user could 
> use a bad memory-eating program to produce an Denial of Service of other 
> processes.

That's what I fear.

Take the actual example. You've running a server on which people can 
connect with rsync. Somebody breaks off rsync - and the rsync-process on 
the server is getting crazy - that's the situation, I described at the 
beginning.

Now, the httpd-process on the server is killed, the named, ... .

It's a perfect DOS-attack.


Regards,
Andreas Hartmann


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-24 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-24 12:09 [2.4.18] Security: Process-Killer if machine get's out of memory andreas
     [not found] ` <3C9DC6D0.3080606@wanadoo.fr>
2002-03-24 13:24   ` Andreas Hartmann
     [not found]     ` <3C9DD653.8090701@wanadoo.fr>
2002-03-24 13:36       ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 13:30 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-24 14:08   ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 16:54     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 16:59       ` Andreas Hartmann
     [not found]     ` <3C9E48B8.9080707@ngforever.de>
2002-03-24 22:23       ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 15:58 ` Chris Swiedler
2002-03-24 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 16:59   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-03-24 17:45     ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-24 17:57       ` Christian Bornträger
2002-03-24 18:01         ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-24 18:03         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2002-03-24 18:23         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 18:37         ` Andreas Hartmann [this message]
2002-03-24 18:20     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 19:20     ` Itai Nahshon
2002-03-24 17:24   ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 18:22     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 18:23       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-03-24 19:49         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 19:48           ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-03-24 20:39             ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 18:32       ` Andreas Hartmann
2002-03-24 19:50         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-24 20:43           ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-25 15:09           ` Rok Papež
2002-03-26 20:24           ` dean gaudet
2002-03-26 23:47             ` Alan Cox

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