From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Abramo Bagnara Subject: Re: About integer64 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:27:52 +0200 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <3CDA6B48.3E68AE3A@alsa-project.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: To: Jaroslav Kysela Cc: Paul Davis , "alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > On Thu, 9 May 2002, Paul Davis wrote: > > > >I don't think that's a bad thing to have support for 64 bit integers > > >(perhaps for future use, who knows), but I think that to use this to > > >store a fixed point float is a big mistake. > > > > > >If you think for it you realize that it's *not* an integer and > > >applications are betrayed in their expectation. > > > > in this case, it *is* an integer. your original question was about why > > its 64 bits - i think that comes from the fixed point internal > > arithmetic. but the end result is a straightforward 64 bit little > > endian integer that needs scaling to get the actual RMS value. > > > > which actually creates another problem that i've noticed with the > > control API. INTEGER and INTEGER64 assume that the control value is > > signed. there is no way to infer from the control element info that > > its unsigned. this isn't a "deep" problem, but it will mess up user > > interfaces that present a large unsigned value and end up displaying > > it as a negative number. > > I think that we can add 'int unsign: 1;' to sndrv_ctl_elem_info for > integer and integer64. Any objections? I'd avoid that. About the problem Paul has shown the important thing is to know if all 64 bits are used. This is also the reason why I've asked the original question: I can't imagine a quantity in audio problem space that need 64 bit of resolution and all the bits are significant and they make a sensible difference. However also if this is the case I'd prefer to have UINTEGER and/or UINTEGER64. -- Abramo Bagnara mailto:abramo@alsa-project.org Opera Unica Phone: +39.546.656023 Via Emilia Interna, 140 48014 Castel Bolognese (RA) - Italy ALSA project http://www.alsa-project.org It sounds good! _______________________________________________________________ Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: bandwidth@sourceforge.net