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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Matt_Domsch@Dell.com
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Removal of pci_find_* in 2.5
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:41:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D2FAF94.7070100@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: F44891A593A6DE4B99FDCB7CC537BBBB0724D1@AUSXMPS308.aus.amer.dell.com

Matt_Domsch@Dell.com wrote:
> In both these cases, the pci_find_device() functions use an explict ordering
> to make it far more likely we can still boot the system after adding new
> hardware.  Unless/until there's a method for telling the kernel/modules that
> a particular device is the boot device (ala BIOS EDD 3.0 if vendors were to
> get around to implementing such) explict ordering in the drivers is the only
> way we can build complex storage solutions and boot reliably.


IMO what devices are boot devices is a policy decision.  Depending on 
pci_find_device() use in a driver's kernel code, or kernel link 
ordering, is simply hard-coding something that should really be in 
userspace.  Depending on pci_find_device logic / link order to 
still-boot-the-system after adding new hardware sounds like an 
incredibly fragile hope, not a reliable system users can trust.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-13  4:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-13  4:04 Removal of pci_find_* in 2.5 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-13  4:41 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-07-13  5:09   ` Greg KH
2002-07-13 14:35   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 15:37     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-07-13 17:06       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 19:28         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-07-13 19:33           ` Jeff Garzik
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-16 19:23 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-13 13:13 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-13  0:36 Greg KH
2002-07-13  2:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13  1:12   ` David S. Miller
2002-07-13 14:46     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-13 20:52       ` David S. Miller
2002-07-13 13:45         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-15  5:25           ` David S. Miller
2002-07-16  0:26             ` Greg KH
2002-07-14 20:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-16  0:25   ` Greg KH
2002-07-16 10:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-16 17:33       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-17 12:41         ` Eric W. Biederman

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