From: george anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk, ebiederm@xmission.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 'select' failure or signal should not update timeout
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:31:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D40440D.116FF155@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020725163239.6c6e5ed6.rusty@rustcorp.com.au
Rusty Russell wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> wrote:
>
> > The thing is, we cannot change existing select semantics, and the
> > question is whether what most soft-realtime wants is actually select, or
> > whether people really want a "waittimeofday()".
>
> NOT waittimeofday. You need a *new* measure which can't be set forwards
> or back if you want this to be sane. pthreads has absolute timeouts (eg.
> pthread_cond_timedwait), but they suck IRL for this reason.
>
> Of course, doesn't need any correlation with absolute time, it could be a
> "microseconds since boot" kind of thing.
>
The POSIX clocks & timers API defines CLOCK_MONOTONIC for
this sort of thing (CLOCK_MONOTONIC can not be set). It
also defines an API for clock_nanosleep() that CAN use an
absolute time which is supposed to follow any clock setting
that is done. Combine the two and you have a fixed time
definition.
AND, guess what, the high-res-timers patch does all this and
more.
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Real time sched: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtsched/
Preemption patch:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-25 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200207171430.g6HEUvY23619@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-07-19 9:52 ` [PATCH] 'select' failure or signal should not update timeout Paul Eggert
2002-07-20 0:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-20 5:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-21 15:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-24 13:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-24 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-24 19:07 ` Chris Friesen
2002-07-24 23:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-25 6:32 ` Rusty Russell
2002-07-25 18:31 ` george anzinger [this message]
2002-07-28 5:40 ` David Schwartz
2002-07-25 16:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-25 17:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-07-21 16:00 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-07-21 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-21 17:51 ` dean gaudet
2002-07-22 3:59 ` Edgar Toernig
2002-07-22 6:51 ` Christoph Rohland
2002-07-21 16:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-07-21 20:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 3:59 dank
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-21 3:34 Peter T. Breuer
2002-07-28 10:33 linux
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