From: Ray Friess <rayfri@networld.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Rodland <arodland@noln.com>,
"David D. Hagood" <wowbagger@sktc.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Speaker twiddling [was: Re: Panicking in morse code]
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:02:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D45BB72.70257D74@networld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020729174734.B38@toy.ucw.cz
will someone turn off the damn server or something... I've gotten this same
message 40 times already....
Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > I don't understand the direction this discussion is taking.
> > >
> > > Either you are trying to output the panic information with minimal
> > > hardware, and in a form a human might be able to decode, in which case
> > > the Morse option seems to me to be the best, or you are trying to
> > > panic in a machine readable format - in which case just dump the data
> > > out /dev/ttyS0 and be done with it!
> > >
> > > To my way of thinking, the idea of the Morse option is that if an oops
> > >
> > > happens when you are not expecting it, and you haven't set up any
> > > equipment to help you, you still have a shot at getting the data.
> >
> >
> > To my way of thinking, this is still 'minimal' -- it's just a different
> > minimum.
> >
> > It's the 'minimum' way to get the panic message out digitally, in such
> > a way that I might be able to recover it using a tape recorder or a
> > telephone. Actually, morse is probably that, but morse loses data and
> > doesn't have any redundancy.
>
> You don't need redundancy. You should just repeat message over and over
> and over and over and....
>
> If you don't want morse to loose data, invent new codes for different
> parenthesis etc.
> Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-29 21:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-19 5:13 [PATCH -ac] Panicking in morse code Andrew Rodland
2002-07-19 5:29 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-19 16:36 ` Thorsten Kranzkowski
2002-07-19 17:00 ` Andrew Rodland
2002-07-19 17:27 ` Eli Carter
2002-07-19 17:32 ` Andrew Rodland
2002-07-19 23:02 ` [PATCH -ac] Panicking in morse code, v2 Andrew Rodland
2002-07-20 10:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-20 11:19 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-20 13:22 ` Ville Herva
2002-07-20 14:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-20 14:55 ` Tomas Szepe
2002-07-20 16:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-20 19:51 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-20 0:35 ` [PATCH -ac] Panicking in morse code Alan Cox
2002-07-20 0:39 ` Andrew Rodland
2002-07-20 0:48 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-25 12:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-26 3:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-26 4:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-26 4:52 ` jdow
2002-07-26 5:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-26 13:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-26 13:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-26 14:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-26 20:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-26 23:25 ` Jens Schmidt
2002-07-27 2:05 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-27 4:00 ` Andrew Rodland
[not found] ` <200207270526.g6R5Qw942780@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
2002-07-27 5:57 ` Speaker twiddling [was: Re: Panicking in morse code] Andrew Rodland
2002-07-27 9:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-27 12:57 ` David D. Hagood
2002-07-27 15:45 ` Andrew Rodland
2002-07-29 17:47 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-29 22:02 ` Ray Friess [this message]
2002-07-29 17:49 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-29 20:35 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-29 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2002-07-27 18:56 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-27 19:44 ` Ville Herva
2002-07-27 22:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-27 21:35 ` Ville Herva
2002-07-31 15:20 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-27 21:40 ` Ryan Anderson
2002-07-28 10:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-07-29 20:03 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-13 17:20 ` Mark H. Wood
2002-07-27 4:04 ` [PATCH -ac] Panicking in morse code Andrew Rodland
2002-07-29 11:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-29 12:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-29 19:57 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-31 17:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-20 21:32 ` [PATCH -ac] Panicking in morse code v3 Andrew Rodland
2002-07-21 8:49 ` Brad Hards
2002-07-21 9:08 ` Russell King
2002-07-21 10:50 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-07-21 15:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-22 17:18 ` Andrew Rodland
[not found] <04a801c235b9$03f699f0$1125a8c0@wednesday>
2002-07-28 0:43 ` Speaker twiddling [was: Re: Panicking in morse code] Albert D. Cahalan
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