From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from jazzswing.ncsc.mil (jazzswing.ncsc.mil [144.51.68.65]) by tycho.ncsc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23858 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jazzswing.ncsc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jazzswing.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id MAA18870 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:40:37 GMT Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by jazzswing.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id MAA18864 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:40:36 GMT Received: from cpcug.org (pcp01712074pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net [68.48.115.127]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0H00DLL4G0DE@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for selinux@tycho.nsa.gov; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 08:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 08:38:19 -0400 From: James Griffin Subject: Re: A 'Statement of Assurance' on SELinux patents To: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Reply-to: agriffin@cpcug.org Message-id: <3D5114BB.D45BAD57@cpcug.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <000f01c23d4a$e938e750$0a01a8c0@ed> <20020806141841.8278925D@lyta.coker.com.au> <20020807132157.B25323@mail.enternet.com.au> Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Ben McGinnes wrote: > > Russell Coker(russell@coker.com.au)@Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 04:18:41PM +0200: > > > > Who would want to do that? The NSA appear to believe that they have already > > paid for all necessary rights, so naturally they will not want to pay twice > > (also such a payment would be regarded as an admission of guilt). > > > > I won't give SCC a cent, will you? > > Ah, pride, it's a wonderful thing ... I guess, that leaves the only > other alternative (on the buying assets front) as > someone/something/some group buying SCC in its entirety. Though this, of course, begs the question, "why would anyone *want* to?" ;) > > Regards, > Ben > Principle or pride? I'm not sure, but am inclined to opt for "principle" in Mr. Coker's case. All in all, it seems to me that what we have here is a failure of imagination coupled with a lack of historical perspective. To answer the question "why would any one *want* to?", let me suggest that it is to further "poison the well" and increase the FUD associated with this issue. As for the unasked question "who would want to?", I would suggest a convicted abusive monopolist that might not like having a well vetted, low cost, highly securable competitive alternative to their latest marketing program concerning trusted computing. I'll leave the historical perspective as an exercise for the interested reader, but offer a hint, graphic rendering patents. Regards, Jim -- You have received this message because you are subscribed to the selinux list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.