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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: 2.5.26 hotplug failure
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:55:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D8BDF9A.305@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020920231112.GC24813@kroah.com

Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 01:42:50PM -0700, David Brownell wrote:
> 
>>Actually it does more than that ... it tells you what minor numbers
>>are assigned to the drivers _currently loaded_ which means that it's
>>not really useful the instant someone plugs in another device.
> 
> 
> Wait, I'm confused, which one is "it"?  The old /proc/bus/usb/drivers
> file, or the new driverfs stuff?

The old file.


>>You can't use it to allocate numbers or tell what /dev/file/name matches
>>a given device ... so what is its value, other than providing a limited
>>minor number counterpart to /proc/devices?  (Which, confusingly, doesn't
>>list devices but major numbers.)
> 
> 
> I'm working on adding the minor number info to the usb driverfs code
> right now, so that info will be available. 

How about a facility to create the character (or block?) special file
node right there in the driverfs directory?  Optional of course.

The deal being that we really don't want to care at all about major
or minor numbers.  If you only add minor, major remains an issue.
If you add both, then the problem is where to find the darn device
special file.  If you add the device (special) file ... then it's easy
for device drivers to migrate!  'devlabel' or somesuch could manage
symlinks to "user friendly names" using class level hotplug events,
and smarter apps would start to scan driverfs directly.

- Dave





  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-21  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-18  7:50 2.5.26 hotplug failure Duncan Sands
2002-07-18 18:36 ` Greg KH
2002-07-18 19:07   ` Duncan Sands
2002-09-15 21:53   ` Duncan Sands
2002-09-18  6:52     ` Greg KH
2002-09-18  7:15       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Brad Hards
2002-09-18 16:55         ` Greg KH
2002-09-19  7:37           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-19  7:45             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-19  7:48             ` Greg KH
2002-09-19  7:55               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-19 16:49                 ` Greg KH
2002-09-19 20:56                   ` Brad Hards
2002-09-19 23:06                     ` Greg KH
2002-09-20 20:42                       ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2002-09-20 23:11                         ` Greg KH
2002-09-21  2:55                           ` David Brownell [this message]
2002-09-21  3:31                             ` Greg KH
2002-09-21  3:58                               ` David Brownell
2002-09-21  5:48                                 ` Greg KH
2002-09-22  1:21                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-24 18:26                                 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-24 18:55                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-24 19:29                                     ` Greg KH
2002-09-24 22:37                                       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-20 23:22                         ` Brad Hards
2002-09-20 23:36                           ` Johannes Erdfelt
2002-09-21  0:11                             ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-09-21  0:25                             ` Brad Hards
2002-09-21  2:36                               ` David Brownell
2002-09-20 23:46                           ` Patrick Mochel

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