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From: Tim Hockin <thockin@sun.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Brad Hards <bhards@bigpond.net.au>,
	Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	cgl_discussion mailing list <cgl_discussion@osdl.org>,
	evlog mailing list <evlog-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"ipslinux (Keith Mitchell)" <ipslinux@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@home.transmeta.com>,
	Hien Nguyen <hien@us.ibm.com>,
	James Keniston <kenistoj@us.ibm.com>,
	Mike Sullivan <sullivam@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: alternate event logging proposal
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:38:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D90F78E.1060405@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D90F5D3.4070504@pobox.com

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Brad Hards wrote:
> 
>> I liked the /sbin/hotplug arrangement (aka call_usermode_helper). In 
>> fact, my plan was to add the call_usermode_helper call to the 
>> netif_carrier_[on,off] functions. Unfortuantely, I've been to too many 
>> of Rusty's talks, and know that calling a function that is only safe 
>> in user context is unlikely to be a good idea in 
>> netif_carrier_[on,off], which are more than likely running in 
>> interrupt context.
> 
> 
> 
> You really want something where a userspace app can sleep on an fd, to 
> be awakened when link changes (or some other interesting event occurs)

I tend to agree - I like either of the models:

a bunch of little single-value files that can be polled and read

  or

a single device_event file that a daemon reads and dispatches events (I 
like this one because the daemon is already written, just poorly named - 
acpid)

For things like netif_carrier, poll() is probably best - the DHCP client 
can be fully self contained, and not need an eventd to alert it to a 
signal change.  Of course, acpid does support UNIX socket connections 
from apps like DHCP....



-- 
Tim Hockin
Systems Software Engineer
Sun Microsystems, Linux Kernel Engineering
thockin@sun.com


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-24 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-24  1:54 [PATCH-RFC} 3 of 4 - New problem logging macros, plus template generation Larry Kessler
2002-09-24  2:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  5:47   ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24  6:05     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  7:06       ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24  7:23         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  7:30           ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24 19:48             ` alternate event logging proposal Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 19:57               ` Chris Friesen
2002-09-24 20:03                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 20:54                   ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-24 22:32                     ` Brad Hards
2002-09-24 23:31                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 23:37                         ` Brad Hards
2002-09-24 23:59                           ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-24 23:38                         ` Tim Hockin [this message]
2002-09-25  0:09                           ` Ben Greear
2002-09-25  0:47                             ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-25  1:14                               ` Brad Hards
2002-09-25  1:38                                 ` Tim Hockin
2002-09-24 20:09                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 20:27                   ` [evlog-dev] " Larry Kessler
2002-09-24 20:35                     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24 21:11                       ` Larry Kessler
2002-09-24 21:26                         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-25  0:15                           ` Larry Kessler
2002-09-24 21:27                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-09-24 21:50                           ` Larry Kessler
2002-09-25 14:44                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-24 20:54               ` [evlog-dev] " Daniel E. F. Stekloff
2002-09-24 21:04                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-30 22:43                 ` Pavel Machek

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