From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: Reiserfs with Samba vs NetApp Filer Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:55:03 +0400 Message-ID: <3DA89A37.2070801@namesys.com> References: <200210121052.22603.bofh@coker.com.au> <20021012150028.G14731@vestdata.no> <200210121600.39712.bofh@coker.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" To: Russell Coker Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ragnar_Kj=F8rstad?= , reiserfs-list@namesys.com Russell Coker wrote: >On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:00, Ragnar Kj=F8rstad wrote: > =20 > >>>I think that's about to change (if it hasn't already). 3ware sells RAID >>>controllers that do 8 or 12 drives. 200G ATA drives are now on sale, and >>>320G drives will be available soon. >>> >>>12 * 320G should solve the disk space issue for most people... >>> =20 >>> >>The disk-space / cabeling-issue is mostly an IDE-problem anyway. If you >>go SCSI/FC there is practically no limit on how much storage you can put >>on a single server. (performance-issues aside) >> >>Sure, IDE is less expensive, but when comparing to NetApp there is >>plenty of room to go for SCSI/FC - so diskspace should defenitively not >>be an argument for going for NetApp. >> =20 >> > >Actually the problem then becomes case space. On the linux IDE arrays lis= t=20 >there are a few people having 2 or more 3ware cards, they have 16 or more = IDE=20 >drives in a system. With 24 inch cables they can get by with regular IDE = >cabling (and S-ATA will solve this properly soon). 3ware cards allow supp= ort=20 >for enough disks. The problem then becomes what to house the disks in and= =20 >how to supply enough power. > >Here's the URL for subscribing to the IDE arrays list, I think that many=20 >people here will be interested (Ragnar - you might want to make 3ware not = be=20 >the only IDE RAID hardware that's supported on the list). >http://lists.math.uh.edu/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > =20 > When I referred to disk space bound, I meant that users rarely have as=20 many gigabytes as they need given the dollars that they are willing to=20 spend. One can always buy three servers if case space is limited. Someday not too long from now, it will look like one filesystem even=20 though it is in multiple cases. Whether that is in reiser5 or reiser6=20 depends on what sponsors fund first. Hans