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From: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
To: John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NMI request/release
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:02:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DB54C53.9010603@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021022025346.GC41678@compsoc.man.ac.uk

John Levon wrote:

>On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:32:07PM -0500, Corey Minyard wrote:
>
>>This is an NMI, does it really matter?
>>    
>>
>Yes. Both for oprofile and the NMI watchdog (which was firing awfully
>often last time I checked). The handler needs to be as streamlined as
>possible.
>
Ok.  I'd be inclined to leave the high-usage things where they are, 
although it would be nice to be able to make the NMI watchdog a module. 
 oprofile should probably stay where it is.  Do you have an alternate 
implementation that would be more efficient?

>>dev_name could be removed, although it would be nice for reporting 
>>later.
>>    
>>
>Reporting what ? from where ?
>
Registered NMI users in procfs.

>>>Couldn't you modify the notifier code to do the xchg()s (though that's
>>>not available on all CPU types ...)
>>>
>>I don't understand.  The xchg()s are for atomicity between the 
>>request/release code and the NMI handler.  How could the notifier code 
>>do it?
>>    
>>
>You are using the xchg()s in an attempt to thread onto/off the list
>safely no ?
>
Yes.  But I don't understand why they would be used in the notifier code.

>>>>+#define HAVE_NMI_HANDLER	1
>>>>        
>>>>
>>This is so the user code can know if it's available or not.
>>    
>>
>If we had that for every API or API change, the kernel would be mostly
>HAVE_*. It's either available or it's not. If you're maintaining an
>external module, then autoconf or similar is the proper way to check for
>its existence.
>
I'm not worried about kernel versions so much as processor capability. 
 Some processors may not have NMIs, or may not be capable of doing this. 
 A few of these exist (like __HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG).  The name's probably 
bad, maybe it should be "__HAVE_ARCH_NMI_HANDLER"?

>>If the rcu code can handle this, I could use it, but I have not looked 
>>to see if it can.
>>    
>>
>If it's possible (and I have no idea, not having looked at RCU at all)
>it seems the right way.
>
I looked, and the rcu code relys on turning off interrupts to avoid 
preemption.  So it won't work.

Thanks again,

-Corey


  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-22 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-22  1:32 [PATCH] NMI request/release Corey Minyard
2002-10-22  2:10 ` John Levon
2002-10-22  2:32   ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-22  2:53     ` John Levon
2002-10-22 13:02       ` Corey Minyard [this message]
2002-10-22 15:09         ` John Levon
2002-10-22 16:03           ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-22 17:23         ` Robert Love
2002-10-22 18:08           ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-22 18:16             ` Robert Love
2002-10-22 20:04             ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-22 17:53         ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-22 18:05           ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-22 18:08             ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-22 18:29               ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-22 19:08                 ` John Levon
2002-10-22 21:36                   ` [PATCH] NMI request/release, version 3 Corey Minyard
2002-10-23 17:33                     ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-23 18:03                       ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-23 18:57                         ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-23 20:14                           ` [PATCH] NMI request/release, version 4 Corey Minyard
2002-10-23 20:50                             ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-23 21:53                               ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24  7:41                                 ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-24 13:08                                   ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24  7:50                             ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-24 13:05                               ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24 13:28                               ` [PATCH] NMI request/release, version 5 - I think this one's ready Corey Minyard
2002-10-24 14:46                                 ` John Levon
2002-10-24 15:36                                   ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24 17:18                                     ` John Levon
2002-10-24 17:43                                       ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24 18:04                                         ` John Levon
2002-10-24 18:32                                           ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24 18:47                                             ` John Levon
2002-10-24 20:03                                       ` Corey Minyard
2002-10-24 20:29                                         ` John Levon
2002-10-25  1:22                                           ` [PATCH] NMI request/release, version 6 - "Well I thought the last one was ready" Corey Minyard
2002-10-25  1:39                                             ` John Levon
2002-10-25  1:58                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-25  2:01                                               ` [PATCH] NMI request/release, version 7 - minor cleanups Corey Minyard
2002-10-25 13:26                                                 ` [PATCH] NMI request/release, version 8 Corey Minyard
2002-10-22 12:23   ` [PATCH] NMI request/release Suparna Bhattacharya

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