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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] Advanced TCA SCSI Disk Hotswap
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:52:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DB887D5.5080500@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200210242342.g9ONgGT04819@localhost.localdomain

James Bottomley wrote:

>>n Advanced TCA (what spawned this work) a button is pressed to
>>indicate  hotswap removal which makes for easy detection of hotswap
>>events.  This is why there are  kernel interfaces for removal and
>>insertion (so a kernel driver can be written to detect  the button
>>press and remove the devices from the os data structures and then
>>light a blue  led indicating safe for removal). 
>>    
>>
>
>OK, I understand what's going on now.  It's no different from those hotplug 
>PCI busses where you press the button and a second or so later the LED goes 
>out and you can remove the card.  10ms sounds rather a short maximum time for 
>a technician to wait for a light to go out....I suppose Telco technicians are 
>rather impatient.
>
>I really think you need to lengthen this interval.  The kernel is moving 
>towards this type of hotplug infrastructure which you can easily leverage (or 
>even help build), but it's definitely going to be mainly in user space.
>  
>


Caveat coder -- you also have to handle the case where the device is 
already gone, by the time you are notified of the hot-unplug event. 
 Some ejections are less friendly than others...  though from a SCSI 
standpoint, hopefully that case is easier -- error out all I/Os in 
flight, and unregister the host and device structures associated with 
the recently-removed host.  The devil, of course, is in the details ;-)

    Jeff





  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-24 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-24  0:48 [PATCH] [RFC] Advanced TCA SCSI Disk Hotswap Steven Dake
2002-10-24 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-24 19:40   ` Steven Dake
2002-10-24 20:02     ` James Bottomley
2002-10-24 20:45       ` Steven Dake
2002-10-24 21:05         ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-24 21:05           ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-24 21:48           ` Steven Dake
2002-10-24 23:00           ` Scott Murray
2002-10-24 23:00             ` Scott Murray
2002-10-24 23:22             ` Greg KH
2002-10-24 23:48               ` Steven Dake
2002-10-25  0:20                 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-25 10:04                 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-25  0:18               ` Scott Murray
2002-10-25  0:18                 ` Scott Murray
2002-10-24 23:42         ` James Bottomley
2002-10-24 23:52           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-10-27 15:08             ` Rob Landley
2002-10-27 20:25               ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-27 20:25                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-10-24 22:58       ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-24 22:32 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-24 22:36 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-24 22:47   ` Steven Dake

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