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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>
Cc: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:18:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DBC825C.9060905@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 15804.28536.3553.712306@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au

Peter Chubb wrote:

>>>>>>"Jeff" == Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> writes:
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>
>
>Jeff> Like I touched on in IRC, there is room for both sysfs and per-driver 
>Jeff> filesystems.
>
>Jeff> I think just about everyone agrees that ioctls are a bad idea and a huge 
>Jeff> maintenance annoyance.  
>
>I note that the P1003.26 ballot has just been announced...
>
>  Title: P1003.26:  Information Technology -- Portable Operating  
>  System Interface (POSIX) -- Part 26:  Device Control  
>  Application Program Interface (API) [C Language] 
> 
>  Scope: This work will define an application program interface to  
>  device drivers.  The interface will be modeled on the  
>  traditional ioctl() function, but will have enhancements  
>  designed to address issues such as "type safety" and  
>  reentrancy. 
> 
>
>It may be worth looking at what the draft standard says before
>committing to yet another interface specification.
>  
>


Already looked at it.  It's awful, and retains many of the problems that 
ioctl(2) presents to kernel maintainers.

I sent a comment in to the only email address I could find describing 
the issues (politely!), but as a mere peon I doubt it will have much 
effect.  The best we can do is ignore this POSIX junk and hope it goes 
away...

    Jeff





  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-28  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <717068543@toto.iv>
2002-10-27 22:58 ` Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS Peter Chubb
2002-10-28  0:18   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2002-10-28  7:48     ` Kernel/userspace interfaces (was: Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS) Brad Hards
2002-10-24 16:23 Switching from IOCTLs to a RAMFS Mark Peloquin
2002-10-24 16:35 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-24 17:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-24 18:15   ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-24 21:40     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-10-24 22:49       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-26 22:00         ` Jeff Garzik

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