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From: reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Cc: JP Howard <jh_lists@fastmail.fm>,
	Edward Shishkin <edward@namesys.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>,
	Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: External journals and NVRAM devices
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:23:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DC836D2.5060100@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021101213703.D142A50D503@server5.fastmail.fm>

Chris Mason wrote:

>On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 16:37, JP Howard wrote:
> 
>  
>
>>Apologies to all for my lack of reading comprehension. Yes, of course
>>that shows 32M...
>>
>>When the 2.4.20 journal-size patches are out I'll try and do some
>>benchmarking with larger journals on NVRAM devices. We use Cyrus IMAPd
>>which is very fsync intensive, so I expect an NVRAM journal may make a
>>big difference...
>>
>>    
>>
>
>The data logging patches include a ton of reiserfs writeback changes
>that allow good performance with small transactions (like mail server
>workloads) and small log sizes.
>
>With ext3, a 128M or bigger log can really improve performance because
>so much of the writeback is done through bdflush/kupdate. 
>
Please explain the because clause of the sentence above in more detail.

> With a bigger
>log, it is much more likely things will already be written to the main
>disk by the time you need to wrap around and reuse part of the log for a
>new transaction.  So a big log, and tuning bdflush to trigger writeback
>quickly can really help ext3 performance.
>
>(note, this gives ext3 some memory pressure advantages)
>
>With data logging reiserfs a mail server will rarely need more than a
>32MB log.  A larger log can help when you've got a very full tree
>(millions of files), since those transactions will be slightly larger,
>or when you are doing fsyncs on big files.
>
>Andrew Morton's synctest program is a pretty good tool for benchmarking
>optimal transaction parameters.
>
>-chris
>
>
>
>
>  
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-05 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-01 21:37 External journals and NVRAM devices JP Howard
2002-11-04 13:16 ` Chris Mason
2002-11-05 21:23 ` reiser [this message]
2002-11-06 20:18   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-11-06 20:42     ` Chris Mason
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-05 22:12 JP Howard
2002-11-01 20:38 JP Howard
2002-11-01 20:57 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-11-01 21:57 ` Edward Shishkin
2002-11-01 21:58   ` Edward Shishkin
2002-11-01  7:29 JP Howard
2002-11-01  7:49 ` Serge Kolodeznyh
2002-11-01 15:33   ` Len Sorensen
2002-11-01 15:10 ` Edward Shishkin
2002-11-01  5:38 Jeremy Howard
2002-11-01  6:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-11-01 14:30   ` Edward Shishkin
2002-11-01 20:40 ` Hans Reiser
2002-11-01 21:45   ` Edward Shishkin
2002-11-01 20:41 ` Hans Reiser
2002-11-02  3:04   ` Andrew Clausen

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