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From: Nivedita Singhvi <niv@us.ibm.com>
To: Andrew McGregor <andrew@indranet.co.nz>
Cc: Bogdan Costescu <bogdan.costescu@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	dlstevens@us.ibm.com, matti.aarnio@zmailer.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, stefano.andreani.ap@h3g.it,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: R: Kernel bug handling TCP_RTO_MAX?
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:07:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DFA21C5.867C6320@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 19000000.1039780134@localhost.localdomain

Andrew McGregor wrote:

> In a closed network, why not have SOCK_STREAM map to something faster than
> TCP anyway?  That is, if I connect(address matching localnet), SOCK_STREAM
> maps to (eg) SCTP.  That would be a far more dramatic performance hack!
> 
> Andrew

Not that simple. SCTP (if that is what Matti was referring to) is 
a SOCK_STREAM socket, with a protocol of IPPROTO_SCTP. I'm just
getting done implementing a testsuite against the SCTP API.

i.e. You have to know you want an SCTP socket at the time you
open the socket. You certainly have no idea whether youre on
a closed network or not, for that matter, the app may want to talk
on multiple interfaces etc. (Most hosts will have one interface
on a public net)..

Currently, Linux SCTP doesn't yet support TCP style i.e SOCK_STREAM
sockets, we only do udp-style sockets (SOCK_SEQPACKET).  We will be
putting in SOCK_STREAM support next, but understand that performance
is not something that has been addressed yet, and a performant SCTP
is still some ways away (though I'm sure Jon and Sridhar will be 
working their tails off to do so  ;)). 

But dont expect SCTP to be the surreptitious underlying layer
carrying TCP traffic, if thats an expectation that anyone has :)

Solving this problem without application involvement is a 
more limited scenario..

thanks,
Nivedita

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-13 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-13  6:55 R: Kernel bug handling TCP_RTO_MAX? David Stevens
2002-12-13  6:59 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-13 11:46   ` Bogdan Costescu
2002-12-13 11:48     ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13 12:33       ` Bogdan Costescu
2002-12-13 13:07         ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13 18:07       ` Nivedita Singhvi [this message]
2002-12-13 22:25         ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13 22:58         ` Matti Aarnio
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-12-12 20:37 Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-12 20:18 Andreani Stefano
2002-12-12 20:32 ` David S. Miller
2002-12-12 21:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-12-13  2:26   ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13  3:39     ` Matti Aarnio
2002-12-13  4:45       ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13  6:26         ` Nivedita Singhvi
2002-12-13 11:40         ` Andrew McGregor
2002-12-13  5:23       ` David S. Miller

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