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From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@pyxtechnologies.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!)
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 01:04:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E1B6B23.40A3C939@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.10.10301071439190.421-100000@master.linux-ide.org

Hi,

Andre Hedrick wrote:

> > > Please continue to think of TCP checksums as valid for a data transport,
> > > you data will be gone soon enough.
> > >
> > > Initiator == Controller
> > > Target == Disk
> > > iSCSI == cable or ribbon
> > >
> > > Please turn off the CRC on your disk drive and see if you still have data.
> >
> > This maybe works as PR, but otherwise it's crap.
> 
> So, please turn off the CRC's in your onboard storage today and see how
> long it lasts.

If you want to compare apples with apples, you should rather tell me how
I turn off the checksumming of my nic.

> > With a network protocol you have multiple possibilities to increase the
> > reliability. The lower you do it in the network layer the easier is it
> > to put it into hardware and to optimize it and the more generically it's
> > usable. Doing it in the protocol is only the last resort. The iSCSI
> > protocol is a nice protocol - if you ignore all the crap the hardware
> > vendors put in (that stuff only makes sense if you want to produce ultra
> > cheap hardware).
> 
> I will be happy to see everyone turn off the CRC's on the data and headers
> on their products or the open sources ones which fail to follow the rules.
> I am well away of everyones contempt for standards.

You know RFC2119?

bye, Roman

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-08  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-05  1:54 Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05  2:47 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-05  3:26   ` NEURONET
2003-01-05  4:11     ` NEURONET
2003-01-05  4:41   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-05  6:16     ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-06  3:06   ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-06  3:38     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06  5:24       ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-06 10:24       ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-06 16:51       ` Roman Zippel
2003-01-07  0:28         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07 20:36           ` Roman Zippel
2003-01-07 22:45             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08  0:04               ` Roman Zippel [this message]
2003-01-08  1:43                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-08  1:08                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08 16:48               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-01-08 19:37                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-07  0:39         ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07  4:20           ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-07  5:38             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07  6:16               ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07  6:43                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07  7:08                   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07  8:00                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07  8:14                       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07  8:41                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07 17:07                           ` Werner Almesberger
2003-01-07 12:12                     ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07  6:45               ` Lincoln Dale
2003-01-07  7:02                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-07 11:24             ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07 10:31           ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-08 19:10             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-01-08 20:09               ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-08 20:40                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-07 12:31           ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 12:31             ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07 13:58               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-07 23:09                 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-07 16:21               ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-07 13:04         ` Lionel Bouton
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301051924140.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-06  7:14       ` Lincoln Dale
2003-01-06  7:53         ` Linux iSCSI Initiator Andre Hedrick
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.10.10301052337150.421-100000@master.linux-ide.o rg>
2003-01-06  9:10           ` Lincoln Dale
2003-01-06  9:28             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06  3:25   ` Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) Richard Stallman
2003-01-06  4:08     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-06 20:49       ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-05 22:51 Adam J. Richter
     [not found] <fa.kccjmvv.13go3jp@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hjtum4v.fki8p1@ifi.uio.no>
2003-01-08  1:07   ` walt

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