From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: when distros do not support official Marcelo kernels they are not being team players (was Re: reiserfs on redhat advanced server?) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:38:40 +0300 Message-ID: <3E3EC540.5040902@namesys.com> References: <20030130173522.3aa4d0e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org> <3E397A19.60409@namesys.com> <20030130234142.E8448@vestdata.no> <3E3A6071.6060102@namesys.com> <20030131115333.GC15359@marowsky-bree.de> <3E3A67AE.4050601@namesys.com> <20030131122147.GE15359@marowsky-bree.de> <3E3A6D76.7080300@namesys.com> <86lm0xpmho.fsf@trasno.mitica> <3E3E7A95.1050908@namesys.com> <1044284001.15685.358.camel@tiny.suse.com> <3E3EBA3F.7060806@namesys.com> <200302031918.h13JIla0025989@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <200302031918.h13JIla0025989@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: >On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 21:51:43 +0300, Hans Reiser said: > > >>I think it is much more like switching the engine in the car and >>expecting the car company to honor the warranty on the air conditioner, >> >> > >On many cars, the air conditioner is powered by a belt that is driven by >the engine, and the air conditioner is assuming that the engine will be >within some range of RPM and torque provided. If the swapped engine doesn't >stay within those ranges, the air conditioner will fail. > Yes, this was the car manufacturer argument. Funny how everybody somehow manages to cope with all those aftermarket carburetors and non-standard batteries bought from unknown sources like Sears, Kragen, and Wal-Mart despite all of that. The world is much better because some judge of my father's generation ensured that for a car manufacturer to void a warranty they have to have a motivated reason for doing so. Now with people wanting to substitute the Linux Kernel for the RedHat Kernel, a new generation of technologists faces an old question. > >The kernel equivalent is somebody changing an API and not fixing all callers. > > Motivated failure to support is correct. Failing to support because it was not manufactured by the dominant market force is evil. -- Hans