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From: Abramo Bagnara <abramo.bagnara@libero.it>
To: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Synchronous signal delivery..
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:59:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E4E8013.C26DFA0@libero.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030215133600.F629@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de

Ingo Oeser wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:57:38PM +0100, Abramo Bagnara wrote:
> > > Out of band data is a second data channel, so open two pipes. Jeez
> >
> > What about the relation between the two channels?
> 
> Encoded in the program logic, where it belongs. We have enough
> needless interrelations between API functions already.
> 
> If you would like to have two channels in one, than simply
> implement a multiplexer in the program that needs it (look at ssh
> for an example).

We might call this thread "the neverending misunderstanding" ;-)

My message was a proposal about an universal solution for
control/out-of-band streams on pseudo-files (like the Linus sig fd,
devices fd, socket, proc files, etc.) as a way to comunicate between
user space and kernel space.

I.e. something that might replace ioctl/fcntl mess giving same (and
more) flexybility and power (extending the 'everything is a file'
concept also to control data).

This is *not* something I'd propose for user space (where we definitely
have many good ways to achieve these results).

-- 
Abramo Bagnara                       mailto:abramo.bagnara@libero.it

Opera Unica                          Phone: +39.546.656023
Via Emilia Interna, 140
48014 Castel Bolognese (RA) - Italy

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-15 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-13 19:46 Synchronous signal delivery Linus Torvalds
2003-02-13 20:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-13 20:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-13 22:26     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-13 22:54       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-14  8:55         ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-02-14 14:24           ` Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:57             ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-02-15 12:36               ` Ingo Oeser
2003-02-15 17:59                 ` Abramo Bagnara [this message]
2003-02-16 14:52                   ` Ingo Oeser
2003-02-15  0:00         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  0:06           ` Matti Aarnio
2003-02-15  1:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-15  1:30               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-15  1:23             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  1:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-15  2:09             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 20:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-15 23:39                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-17  2:28                 ` Jan Harkes
2003-02-15  5:04             ` Keith Adamson
2003-02-15 19:19           ` James Antill
2003-02-15 22:31             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-17 23:34               ` James Antill
2003-02-17 15:26           ` Daniel Heater
2003-02-15  4:08   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-15 22:00     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-16  0:18       ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-17  4:46     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 20:45 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2003-02-13 21:25   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-03-27 21:40   ` watching for file creation completion [was Re: Synchronous signal delivery..] Alexander Kellett
2003-02-14  2:40 ` Synchronous signal delivery Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14  3:11   ` Keith Adamson
2003-02-14  3:54     ` Keith Adamson
2003-02-15  0:04   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  1:01     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  1:12       ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-02-15  1:50       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  2:08         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  4:09           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  4:34             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 10:55 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-02-14 13:04   ` Keith Adamson
2003-02-15  4:25   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-02-15  5:14     ` Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-14  7:09 Dan Kegel

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