From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: terje.eggestad@scali.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-net@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: anyone ever done multicast AF_UNIX sockets?
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:11:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E63A8CB.2090307@nortelnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030303.095641.87696857.davem@redhat.com
David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:07:45 -0500
>
> Suppose I have a process that waits on UDP packets, the unified local
> IPC that we're discussing, other unix sockets, and stdin. It's awfully
> nice if the local IPC can be handled using the same select/poll
> mechanism as all the other messaging.
>
> So use UDP, you still haven't backed up your performance
> claims. Experiment, set the SO_NO_CHECK socket option to
> "1" and see if that makes a difference performance wise
> for local clients.
I did provide numbers for UDP latency, which is more critical for my own
application since most messages fit within a single packet. I haven't
done UDP bandwidth testing--I need to check how lmbench did it for the
unix socket and do the same for UDP. Local TCP was far slower than unix
sockets though.
> But if performance is "so important", then you shouldn't really be
> shying away from the shared memory suggestion and nothing is going to
> top that (it eliminates all the copies, using flat out AF_UNIX over
> UDP only truly eliminates some header processing, nothing more, the
> copies are still there with AF_UNIX).
Yes, I realize that the receiver still has to do a copy. With large
messages this could be an issue. With small messages, I had assumed
that the cost of a recv() wouldn't be that much worse than the cost of
the sender doing a kill() to alert the receiver that a message is
waiting. Maybe I was wrong.
It might be interesting to try a combination of sysV msg queue and
signals to see how it stacks up. Project for tonight.
Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-03 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-27 20:09 anyone ever done multicast AF_UNIX sockets? Chris Friesen
2003-02-27 22:21 ` Greg Daley
2003-02-28 13:33 ` jamal
2003-02-28 14:39 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-01 3:18 ` jamal
2003-03-02 6:03 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-02 14:11 ` jamal
2003-03-03 18:02 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 0:05 ` Michael Richardson
2003-03-03 1:23 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-03 1:00 ` Jeff Dike
2003-03-03 18:11 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 12:51 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 12:35 ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 17:09 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 16:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 18:07 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 17:56 ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 19:11 ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2003-03-03 18:56 ` David S. Miller
2003-03-03 19:42 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 21:32 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 23:38 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 19:39 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-03 22:29 ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-03 23:29 ` Terje Eggestad
2003-03-04 2:38 ` jamal
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2003-03-03 18:18 ` Andi Kleen
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