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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Cc: Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] various allocator optimizations
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:12:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E6F1635.2010305@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1047433739.8215.487.camel@tiny.suse.com>

Chris Mason wrote:

>On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:46, Hans Reiser wrote:
>  
>
>>Chris Mason wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 16:42, Hans Reiser wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Chris, don't you think the right answer would be to take zam's resizer 
>>>>and make a defragmenter out of it?
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Yes and no, for a defrag program to fix things we'd have to agree on an
>>>optimal layout ;-)  Also it assumes the machine has idle time when a
>>>defragment cycle is possible. 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>No, it assumes that 80% of files don't move during the course of a week, 
>>so if defrag takes a week, it still adds value.
>>
>>    
>>
>I ran a number of systems where this wasn't true.  Spool files are
>constantly appended to or deleted by pop/imap servers.  Idle time is
>important, between normal operations and backups it is almost impossible
>to find a time when big servers have disk bandwidth to spare.
>
>I like the idea of a dynamic in-kernel fragmentation tool though, you
>mark a file as being in need of reallocation, and it happens before io
>or something (hand waving is fun).
>
You mean you like the allocate on flush we do in reiser4?

Perhaps I should say only that for 80% of machines 80% of the files 
never move during the course of a week.;-)

allocate on flush will improve a lot of the cases, and an online 
repacker will improve a lot of the ones that allocate on flush does not 
improve.

-- 
Hans



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-03-12 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-11 16:34 [PATCH] various allocator optimizations Chris Mason
2003-03-11 16:42 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-11 17:32   ` Chris Mason
2003-03-11 18:04     ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-11 19:00       ` Chris Mason
2003-03-11 21:51         ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 21:42     ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 22:25       ` Chris Mason
2003-03-11 22:39         ` Anders Widman
2003-03-11 22:54           ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-11 23:19             ` Anders Widman
2003-03-12  7:15               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-11 22:46         ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-12  1:48           ` Chris Mason
2003-03-12  7:12             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-12 13:31               ` Chris Mason
2003-03-12 14:00                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-12 14:05                   ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-12 14:08                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-12 14:17                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-12 19:22                         ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-13  6:11                           ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-13 12:06                             ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-13 12:10                               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-12 11:12             ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2003-03-12 13:35               ` Chris Mason
2003-03-12 14:03                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-12  7:14       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-03-12 19:57   ` Chris Mason
2003-03-12 20:51     ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-13 15:59       ` Chris Mason
2003-03-14  0:15         ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-14  1:34           ` Chris Mason
2003-03-14 10:26             ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-14 13:51               ` Chris Mason
2003-03-14 18:59                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-03-14 20:40                   ` Chris Mason
2003-03-14 13:59             ` Manuel Krause
2003-03-14 14:10               ` Chris Mason
2003-03-16 16:25       ` Anders Widman
2003-08-18 16:15         ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-18 16:20           ` Yury Umanets

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