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From: "John S. Denker" <jsd@monmouth.com>
To: bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
Cc: netdev <netdev@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: ?completeness of IPsec feature-set
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:48:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E8371B5.7030200@monmouth.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030327133659.GA11820@outpost.ds9a.nl>

On 03/27/2003 08:36 AM, bert hubert wrote:
>
> Racoon is just an IKE daemon - Linux is not bound to it.  

That's true.  But until today there had been no
discussion on netdev of any userspace tools except
KAME, as far as google and I can tell.  It seems
high time to begin such a discussion.

 > You are free to write your own.

I think before I did that I would throw away all
the linux-2.5 built-in IPsec features and use
FreeS/WAN, which has a reasonably complete feature-set.

It's amusing that some people flame FreeS/WAN,
alleging "it's _not_ integrated, and this is a
major problem" ... and alleging that the linux-2.5
stuff solves this problem.  Somehow I don't understand
how telling people to write their own key-exchange
daemon is the winning "integrated" solution.

 > The OpenBSD one (isakpmd) also works under linux.

Folks who wish to pursue this option are encouraged
to look at
   http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0301.3/0582.html
which announces a port of isakmpd to linux-2.5,
available from
   http://bender.thinknerd.de/~thomas/isakmpd-linux-2.5/

BSD IPsec in general and isakmpd in particular have
a better design and vastly better documentation than
KAME.

However, the existence of isakmpd does not answer all
questions about the completeness of the IPsec feature-
set.

For example, BSD provides an "enc0" device and documents
using it to implement network security rules.  Alas I
see no sign that linux-2.5 provides this feature.  If
I am overlooking something, please explain.

I ask again:  Is there a document somewhere listing the
set of desirable features and the status thereof?  Or
otherwise is there something to reassure would-be users
that a complete feature-set will be provided?

http://www.monmouth.com/~jsd/vpn/ipsec+routing/feature-list.htm

  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-27 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-27 11:13 ?completeness of IPsec feature-set John S. Denker
2003-03-27 13:36 ` bert hubert
2003-03-27 21:48   ` John S. Denker [this message]
2003-03-27 21:58     ` bert hubert
2003-03-27 22:58       ` John S. Denker
2003-03-27 23:21       ` James Morris
2003-03-28  6:32       ` Pekka Savola
2003-03-28 10:19         ` bert hubert

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