From: Abramo Bagnara <abramo.bagnara@libero.it>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Cc: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>,
Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it>,
alsa-devel <alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Subject: Re: matrix mixer control (Re: Complex mixer questio
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 15:51:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E8AEAFA.4090204@libero.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304021418180.3649-100000@pnote.perex-int.cz>
Jaroslav Kysela ha scritto:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Abramo Bagnara wrote:
>
>
>>Jaroslav Kysela ha scritto:
>>
>>>On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Abramo Bagnara wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree with Jaroslav fully:
>>>>- have one ALSA control for each primitive hw control (1536 different
>>>>controls)
>>>>- add a field to struct sndrv_ctl_elem_info explaining how index field
>>>>of sndvr_ctl_elem_id should be interpreted (32,16+16,10+11+11, ecc.)
>>>>
>>>>This permit to have native support for N dimensional control.
>>>>
>>>>About kernel memory issues, this concerns easily solvable implementation
>>>>detail to not worry about when designing sane API.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok, I've added the dimension description to the info structure. Although
>>>it is completely irrelevant to data transfers.
>>>
>>>Also, I've implemented multi element in the kernel space to save memory
>>>and it makes the searching faster. The reference code is in the trident
>>>driver. I'll recode other drivers containing many "same" controls to use
>>>this method later.
>>
>>The lack of sparse matrix support I see in your implementation is a very
>>unfortunate design choice.
>>
>>I suggest you to use an hash table pointing to a pair { kcontrol_index,
>>kcontrol_volatile_index } (16+16 should be enough) for control id
>>searching and to move index info into snd_kcontrol_volatile_t.
>
>
> I don't understand. The matrix is simply mapped to linear space. There is
> no requirement to do something special.
Perhaps I'm beginning to understand: you're using ordinary access for
first N-1 dimensions and snd_kcontrol_volatile_t only for last dimension
and only for contiguous values of index.
I believe this is not the right approach and linear search on a large
number of controls should be avoided (because not scalable).
Also suppose to have a 10*10 control matrix but for each row but #3 you
don't have a control for column #2, #4 and #6.
With your solution you still need to have 4*9+1=37 separate but
identical snd_kcontrol_t instead of 1 if you adopt the solution I propose.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-02 13:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-29 15:00 Complex mixer questions Giuliano Pochini
2003-03-29 14:14 ` Paul Davis
2003-03-31 9:05 ` matrix mixer control (Re: Complex mixer questions) Takashi Iwai
2003-03-31 10:56 ` matrix mixer control (Re: Complex mixer questio Giuliano Pochini
2003-03-31 11:39 ` matrix mixer control (Re: Complex mixer questions) Jaroslav Kysela
2003-03-31 13:03 ` matrix mixer control (Re: Complex mixer questio Giuliano Pochini
2003-03-31 14:12 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-03-31 17:23 ` Paul Davis
2003-03-31 19:59 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-01 6:52 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-04-01 14:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-01 14:16 ` Takashi Iwai
2003-04-01 14:49 ` Paul Davis
2003-04-02 10:18 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-04-02 13:12 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-02 13:51 ` Abramo Bagnara [this message]
2003-04-02 14:42 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-02 16:36 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-04-02 16:47 ` Paul Davis
2003-04-02 17:18 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-02 17:39 ` Paul Davis
2003-04-02 17:06 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-04-02 17:27 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-04-01 14:23 ` Paul Davis
2003-03-31 14:45 ` Matt Flax
2003-03-31 14:20 ` Justin Cormack
2003-03-31 17:18 ` Paul Davis
[not found] <3E84C6BA0011E1C5@ims5a.libero.it>
2003-04-02 17:18 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-04-02 17:40 ` Paul Davis
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