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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>
Cc: Anders Widman <andewid@tnonline.net>, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Multiple data streams...
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:53:06 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E8B1572.1010001@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E8B0BED.2070004@suse.com>

Users should know that these will never be accepted into ReiserFS, and 
the reasons why are explained at www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html



Jeff Mahoney wrote:

> Anders Widman wrote:
>
>>    Is this supported, or will it be supported by ReiserFS?
>>    I  use  this  feature quite quite much.. Maybe this is something to
>>    add to ReiserFS?
>>
>>    There is very brief info at Microsoft's website:
>>
>>    
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/core/fncc_fil_khzt.asp
>
>
>     I have an implementation of extended attributes that has been 
> included in the SuSE kernel for some time now. It's not at all 
> suitable for filestreams with a lot of data, as the Linux extended 
> attribute interface requires that the entire attribute be read and 
> written in one chunk. However, for small things, such as mime type, 
> email sender, and perhaps even small thumbprints, this wouldn't be a 
> problem. The sizes of xattrs in my implementation aren't limited in 
> size, as they are implemented as regular files in a hidden tree. [*]
>
>     The patches are against the SuSE kernel at the moment, but if 
> there's enough interest, I could split them out to depend on the 
> generic  ACL/EA patches from Andreas Gruenbacher and Chris Mason's 
> data logging and quota patches.
>
>     I suppose that since the xattr files are normal files, it would be 
> pretty easy to implement a "datastream" xattr that could be accessed 
> using normal tools. The semantics could be similar to the windows 
> implementation, e.g. /foo/bar/file:datastream1 (Lookup the file 
> verbatim first, then try datastreams) However, since most of the 
> userspace tools are unaware of xattrs, the same restrictions that 
> apply for any other xattr apply: they'll be lost if you copy/backup 
> with tools that don't know about them.
>
>     -Jeff
>
> [*] My design requirements included not forking the filesystem in an 
> incompatible manner, this was the best way I came up with. If a 
> filesystem with xattrs on it is mounted with them disabled or by a 
> kernel that doesn't support them, the xattrs appear in a tree owned by 
> root (mode 700), with all the files owned by the user owning the file 
> that the xattr is associated with.
>


-- 
Hans



  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-02 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-02  9:28 Multiple data streams Anders Widman
2003-04-02  9:47 ` Anders Widman
2003-04-02 16:43   ` Hans Reiser
2003-04-03 16:49   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-02 12:40 ` Russell Coker
2003-04-02 13:08   ` Anders Widman
2003-04-02 21:32     ` Russell Coker
2003-04-03 19:00       ` Hans Reiser
2003-04-03 19:57         ` Russell Coker
2003-04-03 21:53           ` Hans Reiser
2003-04-02 15:18   ` Oleg Drokin
2003-04-02 15:30   ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-04-02 16:12 ` Jeff Mahoney
2003-04-02 16:53   ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2003-04-02 17:07     ` Chris Mason
2003-04-02 17:13       ` Nikita Danilov
2003-04-03 18:37         ` Hans Reiser
2003-04-03 19:02           ` Chris Mason
2003-04-03 19:50             ` Hans Reiser
2003-04-03 20:09               ` Chris Mason
2003-04-04  7:41           ` Nikita Danilov

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