From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: Status of reiserfs in Redhat 2.4.7-10 kernel ? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:57:48 +0400 Message-ID: <3E9ECEFC.6090508@namesys.com> References: <3E9D0744.9090907@namesys.com> <1050499043.10791.137.camel@tiny.suse.com> <3E9D7DA6.8040507@namesys.com> <3E9DB547.4030109@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <3E9DB547.4030109@web.de> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Gerrit Hannaert Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Gerrit Hannaert wrote: >Hans Reiser wrote: > > > >>Test suites cannot compete with real users. Marcelo gets lots of real >>users before he releases a final version, and the distros don't. >>However, I would also add that a conservative person would wait until >>a few weeks after Marcelo releases, and confirm that it really was >>stable according to those on the linux kernel mailing list. >> >> > >I think there is something to be said for test suites *and* for testing >by a good number of users, and new kernels should probably get a good >dose of both before running on any production system. You should >probably get as much testing as you can get, and excluding test suites >doesn't sound like a good idea to me - which may not be what Hans meant, >though ;-). > Test suites are what you use before burdening real testers with bugs that can be found other than the hard way. > >That said, I would really like the vendors' and 'vanilla' kernels to >converge a lot more than they do now... I don't like the idea that some >differences in the source trees have more 'historic' motivations than >being new features or bugfixes (just a hunch). Personally I've been >switching back and forth between vendor and patched 'vanilla' kernels >for the last few years... > What really infuriates me most is when vendors try to inhibit people from switching around. I am lobbying the GSA (US agency that sets procurement policies) to try to get them to refuse to buy support contracts that are distro specific. > >- Gerrit > > > > > -- Hans