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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Rusty Trivial Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [TRIVIAL] kstrdup
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:40:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EA0469D.7090602@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0304181323400.22493@chaos>

Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
> 
>>Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>You should save the strlen result to a temp var, and then s/strcpy/memcpy/
>>>
>>>
>>>No, you should just not do this. I don't see the point.
>>
>>
>>strcpy has a test for each byte of its contents, and memcpy doesn't.
>>Why search 's' for NULL twice?
>>
>>	Jeff
> 
> 
> Because it doesn't. strcpy() is usually implimented by getting
> the string-length, using the same code sequence as strlen(), then
> using the same code sequence as memcpy(), but copying the null-byte
> as well. The check for the null-byte is done in the length routine.
> 
> If you do a memcpy(a, b, strlen(b));, then you are making two
> procedure calls and dirtying the cache twice..

Wrong, because we have to call strlen _anyway_, to provide the size to 
kmalloc.


> A typical Intel procedure, stripped of the push/pops to save
> registers is here....

That's kinda cute.  Why not submit a patch to the strcpy implementation 
in include/asm-i386/string.h?  :)  Ours is shorter, but does have a jump:
         "1:\tlodsb\n\t"
         "stosb\n\t"
         "testb %%al,%%al\n\t"
         "jne 1b"

Which is better?  I don't know; I'm still learning the performance 
eccentricities of x86 insns on various processors.


Related x86 question:  if the memory buffer is not dword-aligned, is 
'rep movsl' the best idea?  On RISC it's usually smarter to unroll the 
head of the loop to avoid unaligned accesses; but from reading x86 asm 
code in the kernel, nobody seems to care about that.  Is the 
unaligned-access penalty so small that the increased code size of the 
head-unroll is never worth it?


> A lot of persons who are unfamiliar with tools other than 'C' think
> that strcpy() is made like this:
> 
> 	while(*dsp++ = *src++)
>                    ;

In fact, that's basically the kernel's non-arch-specific implementation :)

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-18 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-18  7:58 [TRIVIAL] kstrdup Rusty Trivial Russell
2003-04-18  8:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-04-18 16:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-18 16:56     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-04-18 18:00       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-18 18:44         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-04-19  4:52         ` Rusty Russell
2003-04-18 18:00       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-18 18:40         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-04-18 19:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-18 23:37             ` Alan Cox
2003-04-18 19:29           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-19 11:45             ` Kai Henningsen
2003-04-19 20:16             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-04-19  4:14   ` Rusty Russell
2003-04-19  4:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-04-19  8:28       ` Rusty Russell
2003-04-19 12:27       ` Alan Cox
2003-04-19 14:44         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-04-20  8:05         ` Rusty Russell

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