From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joachim Reichelt Subject: Re: Archiver Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:22:56 +0200 Message-ID: <3EAD0F10.8050505@gbf.de> References: <3EACFF00.6030507@gbf.de> <3EAD0062.7060603@namesys.com> <3EAD05FD.3080107@gbf.de> <161351974.20030428125026@tnonline.net> <3EAD0A80.2030605@gbf.de> <561202089.20030428131424@tnonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <561202089.20030428131424@tnonline.net> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Anders Widman Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Anders Widman schrieb am 04/28/2003 01:14 PM: > > >>Anders Widman schrieb am 04/28/2003 12:50 PM: >> >> > > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hans Reiser schrieb am 04/28/2003 12:20 PM: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Joachim Reichelt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>>I know, it is a little bit out of topic, but we are looking for >>>>>>Software to archive our data held on >>>>>>~400GB reiser fs. >>>>>>We want to have exact one copy on tape of each file that is on our >>>>>>system at e.g. midnight. >>>>>>Only new or changed files should go to tape. >>>>>>Tapes are in an robot system of ~2TB. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>lvm snapshots and dd or tar? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>The data are on hardware raid, no lvm. >>>>Tar: How to exclude all file the are on tape jet? >>>>Where/How to find old files? >>>>I think of features as seen in legatho, something like a HSM system >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> How can you without snapshots of the filesystem be able to backup >>> from one point in time? I mean if the filesystem changes during the >>> backup you may loose (miss to backup) data that is changing/moving >>> or get partial files. >>> >>> >>> >>The data to backup are produced during experiments. There is no need to >>get all files at a given time. >>We only want to have all files on tape some days after creation. >> >> > > > >>> Otherwise it should not be such a big problem to use tar to copy >>> files that are changed after a certain date (last backup). Check >>> the tar manpage :) >>> >>> >>> >>I did this. But how to get file back? How to find them >> >> > > > How do you mean get the file back? The idea with backup is that you > have them in case you loose files, corrupt or overwrite them by > accident? > The problem is: If i have the data written some time ago, find the tape the file is on. We have a changer for 48 tapes and it takes some time to check all of them! You know that usernever know exact data of there files. So I have to setup mysql for it or somethink like that. > > > >>What about files copied over remote from WIN of created by progs that >>reset a and m times? >> >> > > This is a problem with Samba/Windows. You could make Samba to not > change the access/create times, or control how it should update > them. It is a little tricky though, and might not help. > The files are mostly from WIN and we need the original timestamps, that is the problem. > > //Anders > >-------- >PGP public key: https://tnonline.net/secure/pgp_key.txt > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Best Regards Joachim Reichelt SB - Strukturbiologie GBF - Gesellschaft fuer Biotechnologische Forschung German Research Centre for Biotechnology WWW: http://www.gbf.de _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ EMAIL: REICHELT@gbf.de _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Mascheroder Weg 1 _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ D-38124 Braunschweig _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Tel: +(49) 531 6181 352 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ FAX: +(49) 531 2612 388 _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ http://struktur.gbf.de/ -- Disclaimer -- Standard > Keyword : Opinions, my own, nobody else's, whatsoever ... Man muss sich notfalls jemand mieten, hat man an Geist selbst nichts zu bieten! (Heinz Erhardt)