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From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: Mark Grosberg <mark@nolab.conman.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] Combined fork-exec syscall.
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:50:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EAEC964.5040007@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.53.0304280855240.16444@chaos



Richard B. Johnson wrote:

>  
>
>To save some processing time, most knowledgeable software
>engineers would use vfork(). This leaves the major time,
>the time necessary to load the new application into the
>new address space and begin its execution. This time could
>be tens of milliseconds or even hundreds if the application
>is on a CD, floppy, a disk that hasn't been accessed yet,
>or the network. In the usuall situation where processing
>must be performed between the fork() and the execve(), you
>can't use vfork().
>
>You can measure the time for a system call by executing
>getpid() or something similar. It is in the noise compared
>to the time necessary to execute a program. Further, we
>get to the situation where one can't even verify a supposed
>speed increase because the system call overhead is in the
>noise. Great, one can claim any improvement they want and
>it can't be verified. What will be verified, though, is
>the increase in size of the kernel.
>
>
>  
>

So, you can't save any time _for_that_particular_process_ by speeding up 
the fork.  Granted.  But that wasted CPU time could be better spent 
working on some unrelated process that is not waiting on I/O.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-29 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-28  0:57 [RFD] Combined fork-exec syscall Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  0:59 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-28  1:16   ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  1:36     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-04-28  1:45       ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  1:49       ` dean gaudet
2003-04-28  1:59         ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  2:27           ` Miles Bader
2003-04-28 19:07           ` dean gaudet
2003-05-01 13:14       ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-04-28  1:17 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-04-28  1:28   ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-29  2:01     ` Rafael Costa dos Santos
2003-04-28  1:41   ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-28  1:49     ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  2:19       ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-04-28  6:59       ` Kai Henningsen
2003-04-28  1:35 ` dean gaudet
2003-04-28  1:43   ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  3:44     ` Mark Mielke
2003-04-28  5:16       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-28  2:38   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-04-28  2:09 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-28  2:12   ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28  2:42     ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-28  6:35       ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-29  2:47       ` Rafael Santos
2003-04-28  3:20         ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-28 13:00     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-28 13:22       ` Andreas Schwab
2003-04-28 13:57         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-28 13:57           ` Andreas Schwab
2003-04-28 14:16             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-28 14:38               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-28 14:56                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-28 14:42               ` Andreas Schwab
2003-04-28 16:36       ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-28 17:19         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-04-28 18:28         ` Craig Ruff
2003-05-06  2:48         ` Miles Bader
2003-04-29 18:50       ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2003-04-28  2:32   ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-28  7:40 ` Mirar
2003-04-28 12:45 ` Matthias Andree
2003-04-29  1:05 ` Rafael Costa dos Santos
2003-04-28  1:19   ` Mark Grosberg
2003-04-29  1:29     ` Rafael Costa dos Santos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-28  3:03 Davide Libenzi

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