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From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
To: Muli Ben-Yehuda <mulix@mulix.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC]  new syscall to allow notification when arbitrary pids die
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 23:26:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EBF144E.7050608@nortelnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030510073842.GA31003@actcom.co.il

Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 02:29:54AM -0400, Chris Friesen wrote:
> 
> 
>>I see two immediate uses for this.  One would be to enable a "watcher" 
>>process which can do useful things on the death of processes which 
>>registered with it (logging, respawning, notifying other processes,
>>etc).  
>>
> 
> Do it from user space, kill(pid, 0), check for ESRCH. I might see the
> benefit of a new system call if it was synchronous (wait() semantics),
> but since signal delivery is asynch anyway.... 

Exactly.  I don't want to explicitly poll each process being monitored to see if 
it is still alive.  That solution doesn't scale well--what happens when you are 
monitoring 5000 processes and you want to make sure that you catch them within a 
certain amount of time?  You end up spending a lot of cpu time doing the monitoring.


> There's already a well established way to do what you want (get
> non-immediate notification of process death). What benefit would your
> approach give? 

Its cheaper and faster.  It only costs a single call for each process, and then 
you get notified immediately when it dies.

Chris


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-12  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-10  6:29 [RFC] new syscall to allow notification when arbitrary pids die Chris Friesen
2003-05-10  7:38 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-05-12  3:26   ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2003-05-12  3:32     ` Doug McNaught
2003-05-12  3:42       ` Posible memory leak!? Boris Kurktchiev
2003-05-12 11:17         ` Boris Kurktchiev
     [not found]           ` <200305131158.h4DBw2u30860@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
2003-05-13 18:17             ` Boris Kurktchiev
2003-05-12 18:06         ` Greg KH
2003-05-12  4:33       ` [RFC] new syscall to allow notification when arbitrary pids die Chris Friesen
2003-05-12 13:23         ` Doug McNaught
2003-05-12 14:07           ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-12  3:53     ` Frank Cusack

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