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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	Dieter N?tzel <Dieter.Nuetzel@hamburg.de>,
	Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>,
	Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.kernel.2003@gmx.net>,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Horrible ftruncate performance
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:25:24 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F1E2A54.5080805@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030723001645.GB8032@namesys.com>

Oleg Drokin wrote:

>Hello!
>
>On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 02:24:09PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> 
>  
>
>>Heh, everything needs to be zero defect ;-)  But I completely agree
>>about not adding new item types or other format changes.  Still,
>>non-extent filesystems can create holes faster than we can, so it is
>>worth talking about ways to fix it (within the constraints of existing
>>code).
>>    
>>
>
>Yeah, we really can insert items with the actual data in the tree
>(as I already discussed with Chris). (No, not one item per one pointer,
>that will be messy). That should work, I think.
>
>No, that won't hurt reiser4, because the key strenght of the reiser4 is the
>throughput and online repacker.
>
Online repacker is not the key strength, but it is a quite nice feature 
that accentuates the other strengths.

>Today the Linus have proclaimed that he really needs the online repacker because
>he got tired by inter-file fragmentation (as opposed to in-file
>fragmentation) and he really looks forward for someone who
>can deliwer XP-like feature of grouping data
>based on the previous read-patterns.
>
that is a very nice feature, it is indeed quite important, and it also a 
major work item that we have no sponsor for.  Unfortunately, it is a 
non-focused feature (it helps everyone), and getting it sponsored will 
be hard.

>
>Bye,
>    Oleg
>
>
>  
>


-- 
Hans



  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-23  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-10  3:23 Horrible ftruncate performance Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10  5:29 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-10  7:30   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10  9:21     ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-10  8:17       ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10 10:01         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-10 14:01           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-10 15:44             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 14:35       ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 14:49         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:16           ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:24             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:27               ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:32                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:35                   ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:32               ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:36                 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-11 15:36                   ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 15:38                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 15:34               ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-11 15:44                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-11 17:09                   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 17:27                     ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-11 18:32                       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 19:51                         ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-12  1:37                           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-12  5:16                             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-07-12  3:49                               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-12 13:51                                 ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-15 12:19                                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-15 16:48                                     ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-15 17:05                                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-15 19:55                                         ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-16 10:35                                           ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-16 10:47                                             ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-16 10:57                                               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-17 18:12                                                 ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-22 16:43                                         ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-22 16:50                                           ` Chris Mason
2003-07-22 18:09                                             ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-22 18:24                                               ` Chris Mason
2003-07-23  0:16                                                 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-23  6:25                                                   ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2003-07-23  5:49                                                     ` Voicu Liviu
2003-07-23  7:32                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23  7:19                                                         ` Voicu Liviu
2003-07-23  6:14                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 14:38                                                   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-23 14:55                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 16:20                                                       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-23 12:25                                               ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-23 13:39                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 13:46                                                   ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-23 13:52                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-23 14:24                                                       ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-23 15:24                                                         ` Philippe Gramoullé
2003-07-12 14:05                             ` Dieter Nützel
2003-07-13 13:00                               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-13 12:58                             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-14  8:45                               ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-13 13:03                             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-07-15 11:51                               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-07-15 13:51                                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-07-11 19:23                       ` Philippe Gramoullé
2003-08-03 14:05                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-04 13:41                       ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 14:27   ` Chris Mason
2003-07-11 14:32     ` Dieter Nützel

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