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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Marc-Christian Petersen <m.c.p@wolk-project.de>,
	Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] O11int for interactivity
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:07:44 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F2F1F80.7060207@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030805024103.GM32488@holomorphy.com>



William Lee Irwin III wrote:

>On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:56:16AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>I'm an IO scheduler type person! What help do you need? I haven't been
>>following the thread.
>>
>
>I'm not sure it was in the thread. Basically, the testers appear to
>associate skips with changes in writeout and/or readin behavior (either
>large amounts of writeout or low amounts of readin), though the effect
>of behavior similar to that surrounding a skip doesn't appear to
>guarantee a skip.
>

Right.

snip vmstat

>
>The load IIRC was some kind of io to an IDE disk while xmms played.
>
>About all I can tell is that when there is a skip, bi is low, but
>the converse does not hold. This appears to be independent of io
>scheduler (I had them try deadline too), and I'm very unsure what to
>make of it. I originally suspected thundering herds from waitqueue
>hashing but things appear to contradict that given the low cs rates.
>

So yeah it could easily be that for example the cpu scheduler is
causing the skip and the low IO rates.

>
>I'm collecting instrumentation patches to see what's going on. The
>first order of business is probably getting the testers to run with
>sleepometer to see if and where they're blocking, but given the io bits
>that are observable some elevator instrumentation might help too (and
>whatever it takes to figure out if a driver is spinning wildly too!).
>

Let me know if you come up with anything significant ;)


  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-05  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-30  0:38 [PATCH] O11int for interactivity Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  0:55 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  1:08   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-31 13:55     ` Szonyi Calin
2003-07-31 13:56       ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-31 15:21       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-07-31 21:38       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-31 22:01         ` Robert Love
2003-07-30  8:29 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30  8:43   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-30  9:38     ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  9:45       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-30 12:56       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30 13:14         ` Wade
2003-07-31 21:43     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-31 21:55       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-01 10:44       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-02 21:27         ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-02 22:55           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-02 23:19             ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-04 19:06               ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-04 19:53                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  0:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  2:41                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:07                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-08-05  3:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:23                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  3:31                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:38                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  4:54                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-05  5:02                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  5:55                                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-05  7:11                                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05 17:00                                     ` Martin Josefsson
2003-07-30  8:41 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30  9:35   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30 15:33 ` Apurva Mehta
2003-07-31 16:58 ` Moritz Muehlenhoff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-30 10:31 Voluspa
2003-07-30 10:51 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30 11:20   ` Eugene Teo

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