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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: Reiserfs List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: reiser4 data journalling?
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:56:05 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F561D25.1080705@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030903105211.GC5762@marowsky-bree.de>

Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:

>On 2003-09-03T02:17:50,
>   Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> said:
>
>  
>
>>No, isolation is not yet implemented and won't be unless we come up with 
>>some more funding from somewhere.  The txnmgr seems to be structured to 
>>handle isolation, but....
>>    
>>
>
>Ah, okay. Sorry, I think I had older plans in mind and hadn't checked
>how far the current roadmap matched up to them ;-)
>
>  
>
>>The new thing with reiser4 is that if you do that write of 1MB to a 
>>file, and perhaps updates to 63 other files as well, as part of an atom, 
>>it will either all survive a crash, or none of it will.  We have 
>>considered using the term "transcrash" for this.
>>    
>>
>
>So it's ACD and not ACID ;-) Sounds good. How is this weak transaction
>exported to userspace, ie how do I signal BEGIN and COMMIT/ABORT?
>
>
>
>Sincerely,
>    Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>
>
>  
>
sys_reiser4 allows various operations such as assignment, and 
transactions are indicated using a delimiter.  I am still trying to 
figure out what is the best delimiter to use, it needs to be a delimiter 
pair, but what?

Perhaps t{ and }t

?

I worry that users will let a legitimate t variable name get too close 
to the {}'s.....

There is a symbol shortage unfortunately.

Probably I should use x{ and }x as a convention for new kinds of 
delimiters, and let x be t in the case of delimiting transactions.

-- 
Hans



      reply	other threads:[~2003-09-03 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-28 17:25 reiser4 data journalling? Tupshin Harper
2003-08-28 17:42 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-08-28 20:48   ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-29  0:18     ` Tom Vier
2003-08-29  0:21       ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-29  1:23         ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-29  5:08           ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-29 17:48             ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-29 18:15               ` Nikita Danilov
2003-08-29 18:17                 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-08-29 21:43                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-29 21:56                   ` system_lists
2003-08-30 18:22                   ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-02 22:21                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-03  2:05                       ` Tom Vier
2003-08-29 21:47           ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-29 13:12       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-09-02 22:17         ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-03 10:52           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-09-03 16:56             ` Hans Reiser [this message]

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