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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: John Yau <jyau_kernel_dev@hotmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Minor scheduler fix to get rid of skipping in xmms
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 19:26:49 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F5AF9D9.3070206@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <LAW10-OE38NfztQ7LS000009f64@hotmail.com>



John Yau wrote:

>>Even if context switches don't cost anything, you still want to have
>>priorities so cpu hogs can be preempted by other tasks in order to
>>quickly respond to IO events. You want interactive tasks to be able
>>to sometimes get more cpu than cpu hogs, etc. Scheduling latency is
>>only a part of it.
>>
>>
>
>Of course priorities are still necessary =)  However assuming that
>interactive tasks will always finish much much earlier than hogs, it's not
>really worth it to give interactive tasks any special treatment when you
>have very fine timeslices.
>

Its actually more important when you have smaller timeslices, because
the interactive task is more likely to use all of its timeslice in a
burst of activity, then getting stuck behind all the cpu hogs.

>
>
>For example you have x that will use 100 ms and y that will use 5 ms, both
>of the same priority.  Assuming that x entered into the queue first and y
>immediately after, at 20 ms timeslice, it will be 25 ms before y finishes.
>However, at 1 ms timeslice, y finishes in 10 ms.
>
>

Yes. Also, say 5 hogs running, an interactive task needs to do something
taking 2ms. At a 2ms timeslice, it will take 2ms. At a 1ms timeslice it
will take 6ms.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-07  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-06  9:46 [PATCH] Minor scheduler fix to get rid of skipping in xmms John Yau
2003-09-06 10:03 ` Michael Buesch
2003-09-06 17:01 ` Robert Love
2003-09-06 17:59   ` John Yau
2003-09-06 18:17   ` John Yau
2003-09-06 19:42     ` Rahul Karnik
2003-09-06 20:04     ` Robert Love
2003-09-06 22:41       ` John Yau
2003-09-07  2:40         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-09-07  5:13         ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07  7:48           ` Johnny Yau
2003-09-07  8:10             ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07  8:35               ` John Yau
2003-09-07  9:26                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-09-07 17:30                   ` John Yau
2003-09-07 17:36                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-08  0:22                     ` Con Kolivas
2003-09-08  0:27                       ` David Lang
2003-09-08  0:47                         ` Con Kolivas
2003-09-07  5:08       ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07  6:18         ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-07  6:29           ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07  6:45             ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-07  6:59               ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07  7:02                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07 14:32             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-09-07 17:02           ` Robert Love
2003-09-07 17:34             ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-07 18:12               ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-07 18:13             ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-06 15:58 John Yau
2003-09-06 16:57 ` Michael Buesch
2003-09-08 22:27 Steven Pratt
2003-09-08 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-08 23:22   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-09  2:10   ` Con Kolivas
2003-09-09  2:16     ` Con Kolivas
2003-09-09  2:31       ` Con Kolivas
2003-09-09  2:33         ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-09  4:14         ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-09  6:49           ` Con Kolivas
2003-09-09 23:53           ` Cliff White
2003-09-10  2:12             ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-10 19:05               ` Steven Pratt
2003-09-10 20:23                 ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                 ` <3F5FE385.10204@cyberone.com.au>
     [not found]                   ` <3F607E62.3010903@austin.ibm.com>
     [not found]                     ` <3F60873B.4000005@cyberone.com.au>
2003-09-11 22:57                       ` Steven Pratt
2003-09-11  0:14               ` Cliff White
2003-09-09 22:06   ` Steven Pratt
2003-09-09 22:12     ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-10 13:59       ` Steven Pratt
2003-09-10 18:51   ` Steven Pratt
     [not found] <tCPY.4xU.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <tDsR.5tY.31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <tZ0f.49P.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <tZjz.4Bn.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-09 23:24       ` David Mosberger-Tang
2003-09-11  2:55 Andrew Theurer
2003-09-11 11:04 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-11 13:05   ` Andrew Theurer
2003-09-11 13:53     ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-11 14:37       ` Andrew Theurer
2003-09-11 23:32 Craig Thomas

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