From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Christopher Li <lkml@chrisli.org>
Cc: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Transparent compression in the FS
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:16:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F8F42D6.7080808@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031017004514.GA6279@64m.dyndns.org>
Christopher Li wrote:
>>The idea of this sort of block level hashing to allow
>>sharing of identical blocks seems attractive but i wouldn't
>>trust any design that did not accept as given that there
>>would be false positives. This means that a write would
>>have to not only hash the block but then if there is a
>>collision do a compare of the raw data. Then you have to
>>add the overhead of having lists of blocks that match a hash
>>value and reference counts for each block itself. Further,
>
>
> Then write every data block will need to dirty at least 2 blocks.
> And it also need to read back the original block if hash exist.
> There must be some performance hit.
In my case at least, we're talking about archival storage. Plan9 uses a
"write buffer" of 1-2GB or so, to mitigate performance loss, which seems
reasonable. With archival storage and hash indexes and such, you're
certainly going to be dirtying more disk blocks than a traditional local
filesystem would.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-17 1:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-14 20:30 Transparent compression in the FS Josh Litherland
2003-10-15 13:33 ` Erik Mouw
2003-10-15 13:45 ` Josh Litherland
2003-10-15 13:50 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-15 14:27 ` Erik Mouw
2003-10-15 14:33 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-15 15:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-15 16:21 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-15 17:19 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-15 17:37 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-15 17:48 ` Dave Jones
2003-10-15 18:19 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-15 18:06 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 12:51 ` Edward Shushkin
2003-10-15 16:04 ` Erik Mouw
2003-10-15 17:24 ` Josh Litherland
2003-10-15 18:53 ` Erik Bourget
2003-10-15 19:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-10-15 19:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-15 19:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-10-15 18:54 ` root
2003-10-16 2:11 ` Chris Meadors
2003-10-16 3:01 ` Shawn
2003-10-15 14:47 ` Erik Bourget
2003-10-15 15:05 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-15 15:06 ` Erik Bourget
2003-10-15 21:36 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-10-16 8:04 ` Ville Herva
2003-10-17 1:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-10-15 15:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-15 21:00 ` Christopher Li
2003-10-16 16:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-16 16:41 ` P
2003-10-16 17:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 23:12 ` jw schultz
2003-10-17 8:03 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 14:53 ` Eli Carter
2003-10-17 15:27 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 16:22 ` Eli Carter
2003-10-17 17:15 ` John Bradford
2003-10-16 17:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 17:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-10-16 17:29 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-16 17:49 ` Val Henson
2003-10-16 21:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 21:18 ` Chris Meadors
2003-10-16 21:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 21:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-10-17 3:47 ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-17 14:31 ` Jörn Engel
2003-10-16 23:04 ` jw schultz
2003-10-16 23:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 23:58 ` jw schultz
2003-10-16 23:53 ` David Lang
2003-10-17 1:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-17 0:45 ` Christopher Li
2003-10-17 1:16 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-10-17 1:32 ` jlnance
2003-10-17 1:47 ` Eric Sandall
2003-10-17 8:11 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 17:53 ` Eric Sandall
2003-10-17 13:07 ` jlnance
2003-10-17 14:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-17 15:06 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-17 1:49 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-10-17 1:59 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-17 2:19 ` jw schultz
2003-10-17 9:44 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-17 12:33 ` jlnance
2003-10-17 18:23 ` jw schultz
2003-10-27 2:08 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-10-27 2:15 ` jw schultz
2003-10-27 2:22 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-10-27 2:45 ` jw schultz
2003-10-16 18:28 ` John Bradford
2003-10-16 18:31 ` Robert Love
2003-10-16 20:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 18:43 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-10-16 18:56 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-16 19:00 ` Robert Love
2003-10-16 19:27 ` John Bradford
2003-10-16 19:03 ` John Bradford
2003-10-16 19:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-17 13:16 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-16 23:20 ` jw schultz
2003-10-17 14:47 ` Eli Carter
2003-10-16 8:27 ` tconnors+linuxkernel1066292516
2003-10-17 10:55 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-15 16:25 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-15 16:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-15 17:44 ` David Woodhouse
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2003-10-17 8:15 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
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