From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Masover Subject: Re: V4 status Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:17:40 -0600 Message-ID: <3FCD47C4.50500@ninja.dynup.net> References: <16333.14692.61778.304155@pc7.dolda2000.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <16333.14692.61778.304155@pc7.dolda2000.com> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fredrik Tolf wrote: >May I ask what the current stability status is for V4? Is there mayhap >a HTTP resource for it that I have not found? > >Fredrik Tolf > > > I believe patching your kernel will not hurt anything else, and mounting a filesystem will probably not hurt anything else. I have a laptop on which I use Reiser4 for everything but /boot (as v4 is not supported by grub and v3 was never supported very well). It seems reasonably stable (once I fixed a problem with xscreensaver). However, I still back up daily, and will continue to do so until someone here tells me I can trust it. (Then I'll fall back to no backup until I get the tape drive working so I can do proper incremental backups.) BTW, to all -- I have had no problems specifically reiser4 related. I was complaining of crashes earlier, but it seems those were either in my pam libs or my screensaver -- reinstalling all my software seemed to help (and as I didn't touch the kernel, it wouldn't have fixed it if it were a filesystem issue). In fact, I know for sure it's at least partly due to problems with pam and related things, because my su (among other things) had lost its setuid bit -- due to my using the wrong arguments to cp when upgrading from v3. The only thing I might complain about is that, although it was listed as a possibility to display file permissions as files within a file (for example, I should be able to do 'touch file; ls file'), I have had two problems there. First, ls seems to know it's a file, and so I can't see any files within it. Second, it needs the executable bit, or I get permission denied errors when trying to look at any files inside it. Third, even with ls not working, no guesses I've made on potential filenames has worked. I know almost nothing about the interface behind this. That said, here's what I'd suggest (without knowing any better): - - If I look at something without using a trailing slash, it should be treated as a file, except maybe for compatibility reasons. - - If I do use a trailing slash, or as a parent directory to anything, it should be treated as a directory. - - If it is a regular file (and not a directory pretending to be a file through some odd plugin -- /etc/passwd could be a file constructed from files in /etc/passwd/) then permission to view it as a directory should be assumed for anyone with read access. As an alternative, the ability to change into a directory could be implemented as another security attribute, which is automatically linked to executable permission for "normal" directories. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBP81HyAisZLIF6uqOAQIH9w/9HV/r2hZOGiUKUZjDsToFkNr+HJn+fTsj C1imfdKC+tiL9kcI8wfjERFcwj/v6gMCmzXSs/XNRa12cs9Ddm+goeqHhfnjUiO8 FM0y6m7kebonM957VqJvVhxLfJkZvHjn3aCtHxl3oHfme9Xz7FrZbBpTbDTPA+aY wYFFun51dQeIG6P4DqWNUIdEC9UNczdtk+Mhh9QsA9wCcT4bmO3UmiOs0mKN9o6K KXsIJCE0DddXxKhROd0RnSY/jKz3KmpTtsNQDekXPaIvMa01qIQOvqv7bbQ/tux8 OZfYGb8dfR/8TmEIOg7HnrF5agcygpIe2EYb7bwmNi+iT8jA5l4NAOT5EdtzFZxk +5hnX3vrSQezoRmr6cYnxgjZtlR5U/tcCZGLcPtvyL5KnxLE83uDBePfQZI8oXd2 mb4wcrLgmyw02n/m8yE7WMB5ukrj4YKNMIGxLR5u0nuNKJFHFLbqiIshg5ZQY1DF CkWMHF1H18Qv6f6zszec4m47hkt/PKpSEArLzMoFA9ag/WtoNrDQq7+iRxy2LYKH evK5AIMFAL9v3huxmCphHK6bjQzdTsl4mvnsPjB0hHcp+MhIsyBzobhd27oaBcsv Hfj/0RywUwRlRj5zdwuoLuPHYlf38PjZlrAmfENWW2CrOL5+7RgbTGeUe+JU/J+t +KlqxdjP1Dc= =ExXE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----