From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: V4 status Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:27:38 +0300 Message-ID: <3FCE392A.2030704@namesys.com> References: <16333.14692.61778.304155@pc7.dolda2000.com> <3FCD47C4.50500@ninja.dynup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <3FCD47C4.50500@ninja.dynup.net> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: David Masover Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com We are still able to crash reiser4. It has been 1 month from being debugged for a very long time now.... Sigh. Vs is working on nfs file handle encoding and decoding. We need to release a snapshot again sometime reasonably soon.... Hans David Masover wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Fredrik Tolf wrote: > >> May I ask what the current stability status is for V4? Is there mayhap >> a HTTP resource for it that I have not found? >> >> Fredrik Tolf >> >> >> > > I believe patching your kernel will not hurt anything else, and > mounting a filesystem will probably not hurt anything else. > > I have a laptop on which I use Reiser4 for everything but /boot (as v4 > is not supported by grub and v3 was never supported very well). It > seems reasonably stable (once I fixed a problem with xscreensaver). > However, I still back up daily, and will continue to do so until > someone here tells me I can trust it. (Then I'll fall back to no > backup until I get the tape drive working so I can do proper > incremental backups.) > > BTW, to all -- I have had no problems specifically reiser4 related. I > was complaining of crashes earlier, but it seems those were either in > my pam libs or my screensaver -- reinstalling all my software seemed > to help (and as I didn't touch the kernel, it wouldn't have fixed it > if it were a filesystem issue). In fact, I know for sure it's at > least partly due to problems with pam and related things, because my > su (among other things) had lost its setuid bit -- due to my using the > wrong arguments to cp when upgrading from v3. > > The only thing I might complain about is that, although it was listed > as a possibility to display file permissions as files within a file > (for example, I should be able to do 'touch file; ls file'), I have > had two problems there. First, ls seems to know it's a file, and so I > can't see any files within it. Second, it needs the executable bit, > or I get permission denied errors when trying to look at any files > inside it. Third, even with ls not working, no guesses I've made on > potential filenames has worked. > > I know almost nothing about the interface behind this. That said, > here's what I'd suggest (without knowing any better): > - - If I look at something without using a trailing slash, it should > be treated as a file, except maybe for compatibility reasons. > - - If I do use a trailing slash, or as a parent directory to > anything, it should be treated as a directory. > - - If it is a regular file (and not a directory pretending to be a > file through some odd plugin -- /etc/passwd could be a file > constructed from files in /etc/passwd/) then permission to view it as > a directory should be assumed for anyone with read access. As an > alternative, the ability to change into a directory could be > implemented as another security attribute, which is automatically > linked to executable permission for "normal" directories. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQIVAwUBP81HyAisZLIF6uqOAQIH9w/9HV/r2hZOGiUKUZjDsToFkNr+HJn+fTsj > C1imfdKC+tiL9kcI8wfjERFcwj/v6gMCmzXSs/XNRa12cs9Ddm+goeqHhfnjUiO8 > FM0y6m7kebonM957VqJvVhxLfJkZvHjn3aCtHxl3oHfme9Xz7FrZbBpTbDTPA+aY > wYFFun51dQeIG6P4DqWNUIdEC9UNczdtk+Mhh9QsA9wCcT4bmO3UmiOs0mKN9o6K > KXsIJCE0DddXxKhROd0RnSY/jKz3KmpTtsNQDekXPaIvMa01qIQOvqv7bbQ/tux8 > OZfYGb8dfR/8TmEIOg7HnrF5agcygpIe2EYb7bwmNi+iT8jA5l4NAOT5EdtzFZxk > +5hnX3vrSQezoRmr6cYnxgjZtlR5U/tcCZGLcPtvyL5KnxLE83uDBePfQZI8oXd2 > mb4wcrLgmyw02n/m8yE7WMB5ukrj4YKNMIGxLR5u0nuNKJFHFLbqiIshg5ZQY1DF > CkWMHF1H18Qv6f6zszec4m47hkt/PKpSEArLzMoFA9ag/WtoNrDQq7+iRxy2LYKH > evK5AIMFAL9v3huxmCphHK6bjQzdTsl4mvnsPjB0hHcp+MhIsyBzobhd27oaBcsv > Hfj/0RywUwRlRj5zdwuoLuPHYlf38PjZlrAmfENWW2CrOL5+7RgbTGeUe+JU/J+t > +KlqxdjP1Dc= > =ExXE > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- Hans