From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265362AbTLNHGg (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:06:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265363AbTLNHGf (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:06:35 -0500 Received: from real-outmail.cc.huji.ac.il ([132.64.1.18]:64188 "EHLO mail2.cc.huji.ac.il") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265362AbTLNHGd (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC0BAC.8020909@mscc.huji.ac.il> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:05:16 +0200 From: Voicu Liviu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031119 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, he MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rychter Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.4 vs 2.6 References: <20031201062052.GA2022@frodo> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.82.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jan Rychter wrote: |>>>>> "Marcelo" == Marcelo Tosatti |>>>>> writes: | | [...] Marcelo> 2.6 is already stable enough for people to use it. | | Yes, that's an old post I'm responding to, but I've just given 2.6 | a try on my desktop machine, and the above statement seems even | more annoying. I hit the following problems: | | -- I had to wrestle ATI drivers into compiling, they finally did, | but the kernel prints scary-looking warnings with call stacks, | about "sleeping function called from invalid context at | mm/slab.c:1856, -- modules don't autoload for some reason (though | I'm sure that could be solved), -- bttv does not compile, so no | video input for me, -- drivers for my telephony card (from Digium) | are not 2.6-ready, so no telephony support for me, -- I have just | frozen the machine hard by copying files over NFS and doing a | simulation write to an ATAPI CD-RW at the same time. | | I haven't even gotten to VMware and user-mode Linux, which I also | need, and I'm not even dreaming about getting my scanner to work. | Not to mention that on my laptop there would be an entirely | different set of issues, and software suspend in 2.6 is, well, | still lacking. | | So, as for me, 2.6 is a definite no-no. I see no advantage | whatsoever in running it, it caused me nothing but pain, and there | is no improvement that I could see that would justify the upgrade. | | So please be careful when making statements like that. 2.6 is *NOT* | stable enough nor ready enough for people to use it, unless those | people have a narrow range of hardware on which the 2.6 kernel has | actually been tested (translation: they have the same hardware as | the main developers do). | | --J. My specs: Cpu:Athlon XP 2500+ BARTON {10x190} Mobo:EPOX 8RDA3 + NFORCE 2 Ram:Corsair TWINX 512 3200LL{dual channel/11-3-2-2.0} Fan:Cooler Master +7 Video:Hercules 3D Prophet 9600 PRO Radeon 128MB My Hercules 3D Prophet 9600 PRO Radeon simply freezes my comp. with ati-drivers from ati.com so I need to press reset!(so I only can run console) My sound (nvidia on board) works very shitty and I have no control on it (level sound I mean). I was running 2.4.23 vanilla + lvm1 so I moved to 2.6 vanilla+lvm2 and now I can not move back These are my biggest problems with 2.6. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/3Aurkj4I0Et8EMgRArxCAKDbp0uE5mIhA5/5C+v/71tscWneHQCg0h3R RF2NIf4bbQ3XEMjV6eEePJI= =7jBp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----