From: Vladimir Kondratiev <vladimir.kondratiev@intel.com>
To: Dan Hopper <ku4nf@austin.rr.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PCI Express support for 2.4 kernel
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:14:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FE09D22.2080206@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031217174427.GA31730@obiwan.dummynet>
Dan,
all your statements are correct. Indeed, all PCI devices works without
extra knowledge about PCI-E.
I have nothing to add.
Vladimir.
Dan Hopper wrote:
>Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> remarked:
>
>
>>On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>
>>
>>>For the record: PCI Express is _not_ PCI-X.
>>>
>>>
>>Ok, but "PCI Express" is too damn long to write, so we'll have to have
>>_some_ sane name for it without typing for half an hour.
>>
>>
>
>FWIW, "PCI-E" is in common use in these parts.
>
>Also, wrt the config space backward compatibility issue, it is my
>understanding that the PCI-E root complex and PCI-E devices can be
>enumerated and used successfully with no software changes, within
>the constraints of PCI. The BIOS or OS should be able to enumerate
>devices, probe BARs and assign resources, perform basic error
>handling, etc. without any PCI-E-specific changes.
>
>The hardware is required to be able to initialize PCI-E links, set
>things up to sane states, and so forth without software assistance
>in order to make this magic happen. It would be interesting to hear
>from Vladimir as to whether or not this is happening with his PCI-E
>test system.
>
>Having said all that, it's obviously preferable to end up with
>native OS and BIOS support for the PCI-E extended configuration
>space, extra error reporting mechanisms, etc. Native PCI-E devices
>hanging off the bus somewhere might not work (or, at least, work
>well) with an OS that doesn't grok the PCI-E extensions.
>
>Dan
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-17 18:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-14 20:00 PCI Express support for 2.4 kernel Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-14 20:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15 10:01 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 10:31 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-12-15 12:44 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 13:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-15 13:58 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 14:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-15 14:44 ` Brian Gerst
2003-12-15 18:40 ` Greg KH
2003-12-15 19:23 ` Alan Cox
2003-12-15 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-16 10:20 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-16 16:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 6:30 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 6:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 6:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-17 7:24 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 8:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-17 10:35 ` Martin Mares
2003-12-17 23:06 ` Alan Cox
2003-12-17 10:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-17 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 16:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-17 17:44 ` Dan Hopper
2003-12-17 18:14 ` Vladimir Kondratiev [this message]
2003-12-17 21:44 ` Martin Mares
2003-12-16 17:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-16 17:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-16 22:39 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 0:12 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-16 21:59 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-16 17:45 ` Greg KH
2003-12-16 22:14 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 10:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-15 15:57 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 10:42 ` Martin Mares
2003-12-15 10:07 ` Greg KH
2003-12-15 11:20 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
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2003-12-15 21:56 ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-15 22:48 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 23:06 ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-15 23:14 ` Greg KH
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2003-12-15 20:08 Nakajima, Jun
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2003-12-15 15:52 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 16:08 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-15 16:38 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 16:55 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 17:08 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 18:03 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 18:15 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 18:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 18:43 ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15 18:45 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 17:24 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 17:22 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-12-15 18:16 ` Greg KH
2003-12-15 18:20 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-15 17:09 ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15 17:38 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-15 18:16 ` Keith Owens
2003-12-15 18:23 ` Tomas Szepe
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2003-12-15 10:17 ` Andi Kleen
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2003-12-16 17:44 ` Andi Kleen
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2003-12-16 22:18 ` Andi Kleen
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2003-12-17 23:22 ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-17 23:38 ` Alan Cox
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2003-12-15 14:58 ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-15 15:40 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
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2003-12-15 4:47 ` Pete Zaitcev
2003-12-14 17:28 Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-15 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-15 20:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-16 4:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-15 20:21 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-15 20:36 ` Jeff Garzik
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