From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: jshankar <jshankar@CS.ColoState.EDU>
Cc: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>,
Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext3 file system
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:25:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FE10204.2030708@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FF18FD8@webmail.colostate.edu>
jshankar wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Please provide some more insight.
>
>Suppose a filesystem issues a write command to the disk with around 10 4K
>Blocks to be written. SCSI device point of view i don't get what is the
>parallel I/O.
>It has only 1 write command. If some other sends a write request it needs to
>be queued. But the next question arises how the write data would be handled.
>Does it mean the SCSI does not give a response for the block of data written.
>In otherwords does it mean that the response would be given after all the
>block of data is written for a single write request.
>
>Thanks
>Jay
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>===== Original Message From Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com> =====
>>On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 05:25:49PM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>to the physical media. There are special file-systems (journaling)
>>>that guarantee that something, enough to recover the data, is
>>>written at periodic intervals.
>>>
>>>
>>Most journaling filesystems make guarantees on the filesystem meta-data, but
>>not on the data. Some like ext3, and reiserfs (with suse's journaling
>>patch) can journal the data, or order things so that the data is written
>>before any pointers (ie meta-data) make it to the disk so it will be harder
>>to loose data.
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Filesystems don't usually wait on the IO to complete before submitting
more IO in response to the next write() syscall. They can do this by
batching a whole bunch of operations into one committed transaction.
In reiser4 we do this more carefully than other filesystems such as
reiserfs v3, and as a result every fs operation is fully atomic.
--
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-18 1:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-17 23:25 ext3 file system jshankar
2003-12-17 23:59 ` Brad Boyer
2003-12-18 1:25 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2003-12-18 14:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-18 4:47 jshankar
2003-12-18 8:39 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-18 10:41 ` Hans Reiser
2003-12-17 22:13 jshankar
2003-12-17 22:25 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-17 23:02 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-07-20 6:13 Peter
2002-07-20 11:26 ` pa3gcu
2002-07-20 16:22 ` 1stFlight
2002-08-03 20:24 ` Benny Pedersen
2002-01-17 21:45 Justin Smith
2002-01-18 15:14 ` Noah silva
2002-01-18 15:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-01-18 15:53 ` Stephen Smalley
2002-01-18 17:14 ` Paul Kronenwetter
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